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Default Whacko Reichturd Skeptic Fred Singer: Cosmic Rayguns explanation sounds like a joke to most people -- it backfires and toasts the Reichturd.

On Mar 11, 5:15 pm, wrote:

The death of the Cosmic Ray hypothesis is wishful thinking on your
part- A. McIntire


Ming the Emperor's COSMIC RAY-GUNS, heating Mars and Earth from Hollow
Moonbase -- you Reichwingers are making jokes, right Reichy? A joke?
You're NOT Serious? Are You?

http://www.rense.com/general20/eisenhowerWH.htm
March 1960 - The Martian moon Phobos, generally accepted as a
celestial body, actually may be an artificial satellite launched long
ago by an advanced Martian race, according to Dr. S. Fred Singer,
special advisor to President Eisenhower on space developments. No
mention was made of the other Mars moon, Deimos.

In his published opinion, Dr. Singer backed a claim first made by the
Soviet astrophysicist Shklovsky. The Russian scientist's announcement
that Phobos was a hollow, artificial satellite, proving the existence
of a Martian civilization, set off heated arguments among astronomers.
Shklovsky based his decision on a long study of Phobos' peculiar
orbit, which other astronomers have noted. The Russian claim has
calculations and those of earlier astronomers prove Phobos cannot
possibly be an ordinary moon.

Though Dr. Singer said the figures still had to be proved, his Phobos
statement in the February Astronautics, rejected other astronomers'
objections.

"I would be very disappointed if it turns out to be solid," said the
White House advisor. If the figures were correct, he stated, then
Phobos undoubtedly is a hollow, artificial satellite. If it is, he
said, its purpose would probably be to sweep up radiation in the Mars'
atmosphere, so that Martians could safely operate around their planet.
Dr. Singer also pointed out that Phobos would make an ideal space
base, both for Martians and earthlings.

http://www.presidentialufo.com/eisenhow5.htm

Mars May have Orbiting Space Base, says White House Advisor

March 1960: The Martian moon Phobos, generally accepted as a celestial
body, actually may be an artificial satellite launched long ago by an
advanced Martian race, according to Dr. S. Fred Singer, special
advisor to President Eisenhower on space developments. No mention was
made of the other Mars moon, Deimos.

In his published opinion, Dr. Singer backed a claim first made by the
Soviet astrophysicist Shklovsky. The Russian scientist's announcement
that Phobos was a hollow, artificial satellite, proving the existence
of a Martian civilization, set off heated arguments among astronomers.
Shklovsky based his decision on a long study of Phobos' peculiar
orbit, which other astronomers have noted. The Russian claim has
calculations and those of earlier astronomers prove Phobos cannot
possibly be an ordinary moon.

Though Dr. Singer said the figures still had to be proved, his Phobos
statement in the February Astronautics, rejected other astronomers'
objections.

"I would be very disappointed if it turns out to be solid," said the
white House advisor. If the figures were correct, he stated, then
Phobos undoubtedly is a hollow, artificial satellite. If it is, he
said, its purpose would probably be to sweep up radiation in the Mars'
atmosphere, so that Martians could safely operate around their planet.
Dr. Singer also pointed out that Phobos would make an ideal space
base, both for Martians and earthlings.



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Default Its Curtains for Cosmic Rays - How long with the Fossil Fools keep this urban legend alive?


"Roger Coppock" wrote
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Wednesday, February 21, 2007

It's curtains for cosmic rays

The recent main-stream media frenzy over the 'cosmic ray theory of
climate change' has shown no sign of abating. For wing-nuts the world
over it is proof-positive that AGW is one giant hoax; human activity
isn't mainly responsible for recent climate change and the IPCC is
part of a huge conspiracy that ignores non-conforming science etcetera
etcetera.

Unfortunately for cosmic-rayers, the more the studies backing the
theory are investigated, the more problems with data sets and
experimental methodology that pop up.

A new paper by Evan et al. in Geophysical Research Letters may well be
the final nail in the coffin for cosmic ray-induced climate change.
Central to the theory are data from the International Satellite Cloud
Climatology Project (ISCCP) showing that cloud levels have decreased
by up to 4% over the past 20 years. Decreased low-level cloud cover
due to decreased cloud-nucleating cosmic rays is proposed to lead to
warming.


I am not meteorologist. But I have seen that over the past 20 years our
plants are not such healthy as before. I connect it with the lowering SO2
content in the air. As you know Poland is close to huge Western Industry and
winds are mainly from west. So we were continously supplied with SO2.
Gardening was one pleasure (all kinds of plants were healthy without
chemicals). Next you start lowering SO2. Now only grass and some berries.
SO2 is also a nuclei for clouds. Have you made a good job?
S*


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Default Its Curtains for Cosmic Rays - How long with the Fossil Fools keep this urban legend alive?

On Mar 14, 12:37 am, "Szczepan Bialek" wrote:

I am not meteorologist. But I have seen that over the past 20 years our
plants are not such healthy as before. I connect it with the lowering SO2
content in the air. As you know Poland is close to huge Western Industry and
winds are mainly from west. So we were continously supplied with SO2.
Gardening was one pleasure (all kinds of plants were healthy without
chemicals). Next you start lowering SO2. Now only grass and some berries.
SO2 is also a nuclei for clouds. Have you made a good job?
S*- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Witaj Szczepan Bialek--I agree that SO2 is the culprit. In fact this
is what the GCM (computer models of global warming) say is the reason
Poland and all of Europe has greater global warming--the SO2 used to
block the sun in the past (after WWII), so it was cooler, but now with
less SO2 from Western Europe temperatures (especially nighttime
temperatures) are greater.

Here in the Balkans I notice the night temperatures this winter have
been about 1 degree higher than average, but the daytime temperatures
are average.

RL

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On 14 Mar 2007 "raylopez99" wrote:

Here in the Balkans I notice the night temperatures this winter have
been about 1 degree higher than average, but the daytime temperatures
are average.
RL


A guy in the Balkans named Lopez? :-)

And he can notice night temperature differences
year to year of one degree? Get out!

What kind of thermometer you got anyway, digital,
digital recording by day and year?

And Yahoo is in the Balkans too?

Joe Fischer

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On Mar 14, 9:49 am, Joe Fischer wrote:
And he can notice night temperature differences
year to year of one degree? Get out!


Yes, it's called weather.com They do amazing things in various cities
all over the world, and give recorded lows and highs for each day.

What kind of thermometer you got anyway, digital,
digital recording by day and year?


Yes, yes. I'm not sure what thermometer they use at the airport
however.

RL



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On 14 Mar 2007 "raylopez99" wrote:

On Mar 14, 9:49 am, Joe Fischer wrote:
And he can notice night temperature differences
year to year of one degree? Get out!


Yes, it's called weather.com They do amazing things in various cities
all over the world, and give recorded lows and highs for each day.


Which doesn't tell how many hours were at
a certain temperature, and may not be meaningful.

What kind of thermometer you got anyway, digital,
digital recording by day and year?


Yes, yes. I'm not sure what thermometer they use at the airport
however.
RL


And both the airport and the weather station
are probably in a "heat island", which NASA says
can raise local temperatures by many degrees.

http://www.epa.gov/heatisland/about/index.html

Joe Fischer

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"raylopez99" wrote
oups.com...
On Mar 14, 12:37 am, "Szczepan Bialek" wrote:

I am not meteorologist. But I have seen that over the past 20 years our
plants are not such healthy as before. I connect it with the lowering SO2
content in the air. As you know Poland is close to huge Western Industry
and
winds are mainly from west. So we were continously supplied with SO2.
Gardening was one pleasure (all kinds of plants were healthy without
chemicals). Next you start lowering SO2. Now only grass and some
berries.
SO2 is also a nuclei for clouds. Have you made a good job?
S*- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Witaj Szczepan Bialek--I agree that SO2 is the culprit. In fact this
is what the GCM (computer models of global warming) say is the reason
Poland and all of Europe has greater global warming--the SO2 used to
block the sun in the past (after WWII), so it was cooler, but now with
less SO2 from Western Europe temperatures (especially nighttime
temperatures) are greater.

Here in the Balkans I notice the night temperatures this winter have
been about 1 degree higher than average, but the daytime temperatures
are average.


So it is time to introduce my suggestion (already posted): "CO2 and SO2
should be in natural proportion in global sense. In some
locations where emission both of them is too high, removing of SO2 from the
smoke is justificated. But this sulfur should be next burned in locations
where it is not harmfull (to restore natural proportion)."
S*"



RL



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Default crackpot, ignore.

crackpot, ignore.

On Mar 14, 12:12 pm, "Szczepan Bialek" wrote:
"raylopez99" glegroups.com...



On Mar 14, 12:37 am, "Szczepan Bialek" wrote:


I am not meteorologist. But I have seen that over the past 20 years our
plants are not such healthy as before. I connect it with the lowering SO2
content in the air. As you know Poland is close to huge Western Industry
and
winds are mainly from west. So we were continously supplied with SO2.
Gardening was one pleasure (all kinds of plants were healthy without
chemicals). Next you start lowering SO2. Now only grass and some
berries.
SO2 is also a nuclei for clouds. Have you made a good job?
S*- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


Witaj Szczepan Bialek--I agree that SO2 is the culprit. In fact this
is what the GCM (computer models of global warming) say is the reason
Poland and all of Europe has greater global warming--the SO2 used to
block the sun in the past (after WWII), so it was cooler, but now with
less SO2 from Western Europe temperatures (especially nighttime
temperatures) are greater.


Here in the Balkans I notice the night temperatures this winter have
been about 1 degree higher than average, but the daytime temperatures
are average.


So it is time to introduce my suggestion (already posted): "CO2 and SO2
should be in natural proportion in global sense. In some
locations where emission both of them is too high, removing of SO2 from the
smoke is justificated. But this sulfur should be next burned in locations
where it is not harmfull (to restore natural proportion)."
S*"



RL


crackpot, ignore.

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crackpot, ignore.


On Mar 14, 11:59 am, Joe Fischer wrote:
On 14 Mar 2007 "raylopez99" wrote:

On Mar 14, 9:49 am, Joe Fischer wrote:
And he can notice night temperature differences
year to year of one degree? Get out!


Yes, it's called weather.com They do amazing things in various cities
all over the world, and give recorded lows and highs for each day.


Which doesn't tell how many hours were at
a certain temperature, and may not be meaningful.

What kind of thermometer you got anyway, digital,
digital recording by day and year?


Yes, yes. I'm not sure what thermometer they use at the airport
however.
RL


And both the airport and the weather station
are probably in a "heat island", which NASA says
can raise local temperatures by many degrees.


Joe Fischer


crackpot, ignore.

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On Mar 14, 11:59 am, Joe Fischer wrote:

Yes, yes. I'm not sure what thermometer they use at the airport
however.
RL


And both the airport and the weather station
are probably in a "heat island", which NASA says
can raise local temperatures by many degrees.

http://www.epa.gov/heatisland/about/index.html

Joe Fischer



But science sez that UHI has been corrected for Joe. U DO believe in
sigh-ence don't ya?

RL





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