"Roger Coppock" wrote in message
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On Mar 20, 11:02 am, "James" wrote:
"Roger Coppock" wrote in message

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Here are the latest data on two items.

1) Latest Data on Solar Irradiance.
http://members.cox.net/rcoppock/Solar_Irradiance.txt

http://members.cox.net/rcoppock/Solrad.jpg

Your text. Your pics. Tsk.

If you find someone else who keeps up with the latest
release of these data, please post their work here.

Yeah, you're the idea man. Right? LOL

On Mar 21, 10:21 am, Al Bedo wrote:
Roger Coppock wrote:
On Mar 20, 5:58 pm, Al Bedo wrote:
[ . . . ]
2. The SST data is actually consistent with the Argo data.
Since 2002, which includes the Argo era, the SSTs have cooled.

6 years are not a climate trend.
You wouldn't pass a grade school
science fair screening with only
6 data points. ROTFLMSAO.

That's the atmosphere.
That 3000m of ocean are losing not gaining stored heat
is totally contradictory to AGW.
What happened to your 'pipeline'? Got a leak?

Well, the researchers don't state that for a fact:

"Some 3,000 scientific robots that are plying the ocean have sent home
a
puzzling message. These diving instruments suggest that the oceans
have
not warmed up at all over the past four or five years. That could mean
global warming has taken a breather. Or it could mean scientists
aren't
quite understanding what their robots are telling them."

Read the last sentence.

Al Bedo wrote:

Roger Coppock wrote:
On Mar 20, 5:58 pm, Al Bedo wrote:
[ . . . ]
2. The SST data is actually consistent with the Argo data.
Since 2002, which includes the Argo era, the SSTs have cooled.

6 years are not a climate trend.
You wouldn't pass a grade school
science fair screening with only
6 data points. ROTFLMSAO.

That's the atmosphere.
That 3000m of ocean are losing not gaining stored heat
is totally contradictory to AGW.
What happened to your 'pipeline'? Got a leak?

As has been pointed out elsewhere, 2002 was an El Nino year. Now it's La
Nina.

--
Graham P Davis, Bracknell, Berks., UK. E-mail: newsman, not newsboy.
"What use is happiness? It can't buy you money." [Chic Murray, 1919-85]

Lloyd wrote:
What happened to your 'pipeline'? Got a leak?

Well, the researchers don't state that for a fact:

"Some 3,000 scientific robots that are plying the ocean have sent home
a
puzzling message. These diving instruments suggest that the oceans
have
not warmed up at all over the past four or five years. That could mean
global warming has taken a breather. Or it could mean scientists
aren't
quite understanding what their robots are telling them."

Read the last sentence.

Right. The pipeline has a leak.

"Bawana" wrote in message
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On Mar 20, 2:45 pm, Roger Coppock wrote:
On Mar 20, 9:20 am, Earl Evleth wrote:

On 20/03/08 16:20, in article
,
"columbiaaccidentinvestigation"

wrote:

But thunderbar you used data from the Hadley centre when you cited a
letter from lindzen, man that's typical behavior you want it both
ways, you can use the data when you think it serves your purpose, but
when somebody else uses the data from that center for something you
don't like, you decalare a bias, dude you are a joke.

Perhaps he can name another well recognized source of information?

Dunderbar won't, so I will. The Lindzen letter
cited radiosonde data. Another source for that
is Angell, and those data are he

http://cdiac.esd.ornl.gov/trends/tem...ll/angell.html

http://cdiac.esd.ornl.gov/ftp/trends...ell/global.dat

Let's see if Dunderbar can analyze these data
like Lindzen did.



Let us give him a chance.

He had a couple of hours. It's unlikely that
fossil fools would know the data well enough
to answer this. They don't live in the real
world, so facts are strange to them.



Different groups can treat the same stats differently
enough to there is some disagreement.

The facts on global warming are very simple.

Too bad you tards can't make a convincing case for c02agw.

ROFL


Cost to stabilize GW: Negligible
http://tinyurl.com/2klwop

Hockey Stick graph verified by new data:
http://tinyurl.com/33kv8h
http://www.ucar.edu/news/releases/2005/ammann.shtml

Gore's Ice Core Graph - debunking the denialist liars:
http://tinyurl.com/33enej

Denialist 'Global Cooling' prediction hoax exposed
http://www.realclimate.org/index.php...cooling-again/
http://www.realclimate.org/index.php...-cooling-myth/
http://www.wmconnolley.org.uk/sci/iceage/
http://environment.newscientist.com/...change/dn11643

"The Great Global Warming Swindle" is a pile of lies:
http://www.royalsoc.ac.uk/news.asp?id=6089
http://www.swindonclimate.org.uk/200703GGWS
http://www.realclimate.org/index.php...7/03/swindled/
http://www.medialens.org/alerts/07/0...aganda_the.php
http://commentisfree.guardian.co.uk/...envirocon.html
http://www.jri.org.uk/index.php?opti...37&Item id=83
http://climatedenial.org/2007/03/14/...nd-nonscience/
http://observer.guardian.co.uk/lette...031117,00.html

NASA 10 year warning links:
http://tinyurl.com/2z9lam

US Government GW resources:
http://www.epa.gov/climatechange/policy/index.html
http://cdiac.esd.ornl.gov/
http://www.climatescience.gov/
http://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/Lib...WarmingUpdate/
http://www.climatetechnology.gov/
http://www.gcrio.org/
http://www.usgcrp.gov/usgcrp/Library...ewfindings.htm
http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/oa/climate/globalwarming.html

"Tunderbar" wrote
The Hadley Centre isn't exactly an unbiased source. They are part of
the agw hysteria problem.

Right, all of the worlds climatologists are part of the Global Warming
Conspiracy. Only the spokesmen for the oil industry and former defenders of
the tobacco industry can be trusted to tell AmeriKKKans the truth.

Ahahahahahahahah.......

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"Earl Evleth" wrote
Perhaps he can name another well recognized source of information?

Well, he does have the Blog.from Joe Tittering student at Winsdale
Elementary School..

You can't get more unbiased than that.

"Tunderbar" wrote
Remember Hansen? Remember Mann? They got non-descript data to show
their biases.

Translation: Tunderbar **** Stain, has nothing.

"Roger Coppock" wrote
Would you please produce a list of all the
people who are part of this alleged conspiracy
of yours? I can't keep up with your paranoid
fantasy. Correct me if I'm wrong but doesn't
the list include:

1) the vast majority of the media and press,
2) the majority of the scientists,
3) all of the scientific press, both journals and textbooks,
4) all of the environmentalists,
5) the vast majority of anyone with an advanced degree,
6) the UN,
7) the IPCC,
8) the WMO,
9) all professional scientific societies, but the Petroleum Institute,
10) "The one world government conspiracy," whatever and whoever that
is,
11) NASA,
12) Wikipedia,
13) the British Antarctic Survey,
14) the NOAA,
15) Realclimate.org,
16) . . . and now the Hadley Center.

The KKKonservative KKKonspiracy theory also implicates

The Royal Society
The Royal Astronomical Society
The National Academy of Sciences
The American Physical Society
The American Institute of Physics
The Woods Hole Research Centre
The American Chemical Society
The USGS
The NCAR
The NRDC
The Union of Concerned Scientists.
The National Wildlife Federation.
The U.S. EPA
Accuweather
Greenpiece
The world Conservation Union
The Sierra Club.

All part of the Comunist KKKonspiracy KKKlaimed by the denialists.







The board and article reviewers of the journal Nature
The board and article reviewers of the journal Science
The staff of Scientific American magazine
The staff of New Scientist Magazine.



And lets not forget - Al Gore.

"Tunderbar"
1) the vast majority of the media and press,
2) the majority of the scientists,
3) all of the scientific press, both journals and textbooks,
4) all of the environmentalists,
5) the vast majority of anyone with an advanced degree,
6) the UN,
7) the IPCC,
8) the WMO,
9) all professional scientific societies, but the Petroleum Institute,
10) "The one world government conspiracy," whatever and whoever that
is,
11) NASA,
12) Wikipedia,
13) the British Antarctic Survey,
14) the NOAA,
15) Realclimate.org,
16) . . . and now the Hadley Center.

Tunderbar wrote:
The press needs a good story so they run with the alarmists. They've
committed themselves to the lies and they can't back down for fear of
losing what little credibility they have left. The "scientists" that
are on board depend on that scare mongering crap to justify their
futures and their high incomes in the research industry. Al Gore wants
to be rich and unaccountable. The IPCC wants to stick it to the right
wing and big industry. It isn't a conspiracy, it is business as usual
in a corrupt world of pseudo-science, left wing activism and mass
superstition.

Translation: It's a global conspiracy by all of the worlds scientists.

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