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On Apr 15, 8:48 pm, "Dexter" wrote:
It looks to me like Hadley doesn't really support that:

http://www.cru.uea.ac.uk/cru/data/te...ure/nhshgl.gif

The temp has declined the last few years.


Any blues after, say, 1980?
Anybody who looks at that graph and says the earth is cooling is
either a serial liar or dumber than a fench post.


Look at the last couple years of the graph.



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On Apr 15, 8:48 pm, "Dexter" wrote:
It looks to me like Hadley doesn't really support that:

http://www.cru.uea.ac.uk/cru/data/te...ure/nhshgl.gif

The temp has declined the last few years.


Any blues after, say, 1980?
Anybody who looks at that graph and says the earth is cooling is
either a serial liar or dumber than a fench post.


What do you make of the Hadley chart on this site:
http://www.vrijspreker.nl/vs/item/20...n-van-politici


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Lloyd wrote:
On Apr 15, 8:48 pm, "Dexter" wrote:
It looks to me like Hadley doesn't really support that:

http://www.cru.uea.ac.uk/cru/data/te...ure/nhshgl.gif

The temp has declined the last few years.


Any blues after, say, 1980?
Anybody who looks at that graph and says the earth is cooling is
either a serial liar or dumber than a fench post.


What have you warmed for me lately?
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Al Bedo wrote:
Lloyd wrote:
On Apr 15, 8:48 pm, "Dexter" wrote:
It looks to me like Hadley doesn't really support that:


What have you warmed for me lately?

We don't even want to know the answer!!!!!!
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"Lloyd" wrote
Any blues after, say, 1980?
Anybody who looks at that graph and says the earth is cooling is
either a serial liar or dumber than a fench post.


Or both.


Here are the figures for the last decade.

1998 14.57 *********************o*****
1999 14.33 *****************o
2000 14.33 *****************o
2001 14.48 ************************o
2002 14.56 *************************o**
2003 14.55 **************************o*
2004 14.49 *************************o
2005 14.63 *****************************o**
2006 14.54 ***************************o
2007 14,57 *****************************

Look at all those "o"'s lined up there. The trend is up, Up, UP.





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"Dexter" wrote
Look at the last couple years of the graph.


The last couple of years are only constitute two data points.

Realistically you need 2 to 3 decades to determine a climatic trend. But
the evidence is obvious. Over the last 10 years there has been significant
warming of about 2'C per century.


Here are the figures for the last decade.

1998 14.57 *********************o*****
1999 14.33 *****************o
2000 14.33 *****************o
2001 14.48 ************************o
2002 14.56 *************************o**
2003 14.55 **************************o*
2004 14.49 *************************o
2005 14.63 *****************************o**
2006 14.54 ***************************o
2007 14,57 *****************************

Look at all those "o"'s lined up there. The trend is up, Up, UP.


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"Dexter" wrote
What do you make of the Hadley chart on this site:
http://www.vrijspreker.nl/vs/item/20...n-van-politici


Nothing. It's inconsequential. Natural variability is .5'C So you can
superimpose that magnitude of fluctuation on the CO2 induced warming curve.
Observed warming is .74'C and rising.




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