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On 2/05/08 16:50, in article , "Ouroboros_Rex"
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"I am a little concerned about this, in the sense that we are still
at a point where the natural fluctuations of climate are still large
- at least, the natural fluctuations of weather compared to long-term
climate change.. So we don't want the public to hang their hat on a
recent storm, recent hurricanes for example, because those will
fluctuate from year to year."


Which is obvious to everyone. Got anything actually newsworthy?


The climate is like a drunk man driving down the road.
The CO2 is currently controlling the direction and the other factors
are the weaving back and forth. The antis only want to pay
attention to the weaving not the direction.



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Whata Fool wrote:

Earl Evleth wrote:

On 2/05/08 16:50, in article
, "Ouroboros_Rex"
wrote:

"I am a little concerned about this, in the
sense that we are still
at a point where the natural fluctuations of
climate are still large - at least, the
natural fluctuations of weather compared to
long-term climate change.. So we don't want
the public to hang their hat on a recent
storm, recent hurricanes for example, because
those will fluctuate from year to year."

Which is obvious to everyone. Got anything
actually newsworthy?


The climate is like a drunk man driving down the
road.
The CO2 is currently controlling the direction
and the other factors are the weaving back and
forth. The antis only want to pay attention to
the weaving not the direction.


Again you totally dismiss water and water
vapor effects
by omitting them.

An example, today it was 78 at noon, it
rained for an hour,
and it was 67.

The averaged mean will be about 70, but
averaged hourly over
24 hours would bring it down to about 66.

And those numbers have a little UHI.


Earl was and claims he still is a scientist.

I WAS a Marathon Runner and Triathlete.

Difference - I know the difference between was and
is.
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Earl Evleth wrote:

On 2/05/08 16:50, in article , "Ouroboros_Rex"
wrote:

"I am a little concerned about this, in the sense that we are still
at a point where the natural fluctuations of climate are still large
- at least, the natural fluctuations of weather compared to long-term
climate change.. So we don't want the public to hang their hat on a
recent storm, recent hurricanes for example, because those will
fluctuate from year to year."


Which is obvious to everyone. Got anything actually newsworthy?


The climate is like a drunk man driving down the road.
The CO2 is currently controlling the direction and the other factors
are the weaving back and forth. The antis only want to pay
attention to the weaving not the direction.


Again you totally dismiss water and water vapor effects
by omitting them.

An example, today it was 78 at noon, it rained for an hour,
and it was 67.

The averaged mean will be about 70, but averaged hourly over
24 hours would bring it down to about 66.

And those numbers have a little UHI.







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"Paul E. Lehmann" wrote
Earl was and claims he still is a scientist.

I WAS a Marathon Runner and Triathlete.

Difference - I know the difference between was and is.


And you tell us that you know

CO2 + CH4 = N2 + H2O

None of us can figure out how to balance that equation.

Can you show us how?

MMMMMMMMMMOOOOOOOOOORRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOONNNNNNNN


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On May 2, 8:25*am, Earl Evleth wrote:
On 2/05/08 16:50, in article , "Ouroboros_Rex"

wrote:
"I am a little concerned about this, in the sense that we are still
at a point where the natural fluctuations of climate are still large
- at least, the natural fluctuations of weather compared to long-term
climate change.. So we don't want the public to hang their hat on a
recent storm, recent hurricanes for example, because those will
fluctuate from year to year."


Which is obvious to everyone. *Got anything actually newsworthy?


The climate is like a drunk man driving down the road.
The CO2 is currently *controlling the direction and the other factors
are the weaving back and forth. The antis only want to pay
attention to the weaving not the direction.


This is a very good analogy. Is it yours Earl?


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The climate is like a drunk man driving down the road.
The CO2 is currently controlling the direction and the other factors
are the weaving back and forth. The antis only want to pay
attention to the weaving not the direction.



"Roger Coppock" wrote
This is a very good analogy. Is it yours Earl?


It's shameful that such childish analogies are required to try to get the
ignorant AmeriKKKan apes to comprehend the basic science.



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Roger Coppock wrote:
On May 2, 8:25 am, Earl Evleth wrote:
On 2/05/08 16:50, in article , "Ouroboros_Rex"

wrote:
"I am a little concerned about this, in the sense that we are still
at a point where the natural fluctuations of climate are still large
- at least, the natural fluctuations of weather compared to long-term
climate change.. So we don't want the public to hang their hat on a
recent storm, recent hurricanes for example, because those will
fluctuate from year to year."
Which is obvious to everyone. Got anything actually newsworthy?

The climate is like a drunk man driving down the road.
The CO2 is currently controlling the direction and the other factors
are the weaving back and forth. The antis only want to pay
attention to the weaving not the direction.


This is a very good analogy. Is it yours Earl?


But without a Breathalyzer you don't really know if he's drunk or is
having a heart attack or an epileptic seizure or any of a dozen other
things, you just see a car and weaving and made up the rest in your head
without the facts. Once you find the vehicle you can start to decide
what's driving it.
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On May 5, 2:32 am, "V-for-Vendicar"
wrote:
"Paul E. Lehmann" wrote

Earl was and claims he still is a scientist.


I WAS a Marathon Runner and Triathlete.


Difference - I know the difference between was and is.


And you tell us that you know

CO2 + CH4 = N2 + H2O

None of us can figure out how to balance that equation.

Can you show us how?


It's actually not too difficult. High energy neutrinos in cosmic
radiation are absorbed by the nucleus of a methane hydrogen, which
detaches as an energetic proton. A 13-C in the CO2 or methane captures
it and forms 14-N.

I'll leave the rest to reader's imaginations....;-)
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On May 5, 2:03 am, "V-for-Vendicar"
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The climate is like a drunk man driving down the road.
The CO2 is currently controlling the direction and the other factors
are the weaving back and forth. The antis only want to pay
attention to the weaving not the direction.


"Roger Coppock" wrote

This is a very good analogy. Is it yours Earl?


It's shameful that such childish analogies are required to try to [...]


....make the absurd more lame stream.


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