On 26/05/08 14:12, in article ,
"Whata Fool" wrote:

http://arctic.atmos.uiuc.edu/cryosphere/

where you will be able to see that this years melt is already ahead
of the record year (2007) on the same date.

No I won't, and neither will the average person, video
requiring proprietary viewing programs is a pain, and most
of that page is old news.


Just look at the graphs, dummy.

On 26/05/08 15:19, in article ,
"Paul E. Lehmann" wrote:

You left out "In my OPINION"

I don't use the expression since my opinion is not alone.

When I have a unique opinion, I will consider using the
expression. I will probably write "In my informed opinion".

But this is all for the future, if at all.

Earl Evleth wrote:

On 26/05/08 14:12, in article ,
"Whata Fool" wrote:

http://arctic.atmos.uiuc.edu/cryosphere/

where you will be able to see that this years melt is already ahead
of the record year (2007) on the same date.

No I won't, and neither will the average person, video
requiring proprietary viewing programs is a pain, and most
of that page is old news.


Just look at the graphs, dummy.

http://arctic.atmos.uiuc.edu/cryosph...rrent.anom.jpg

It does not show the coming summer, and it looks like less
of a negative anomaly for the time of year it ends since about 2004.

You are counting your ice cubes before they melt.

On 26/05/08 22:10, in article ,
"Whata Fool" wrote:

It does not show the coming summer, and it looks like less
of a negative anomaly for the time of year it ends since about 2004.

Non-sense, as usual.

The trend in the decline of summer ice coverage has been established for
years. That tendency is supported the overall thinning of the total ice,
which makes survival through the summer less and less likely.

Next, a decrease in the ice coverage anomaly low
http://arctic.atmos.uiuc.edu/cryosph...rrent.anom.jpg

does not have to be continuous. If can fluctuate from at its low from
year to year but the overall trend can still be downward

We see from the above graph that the anomaly trend which initiated itself
around the mid-1990s. From 2000 on the low peaks were progressive. This
summer could indeed produce an anomaly of less that last years -3, let's
say -2, and still the trend is not obviously inversed. It is right now
at -1 and sharply headed downwards but already that -1 is below the lows
of 1980.

Based on last years figure
http://arctic.atmos.uiuc.edu/cryosph...urrent.365.jpg

we are currently entering a period of increasingly negative
anomaly, it was -1 at this time last year and -1 now. The slope
in sea ice lost runs about 3 million a month so we will know
quite a bit more by July lst.




You are counting your ice cubes before they melt.

On May 26, 2:12 pm, Whata Fool wrote:

This is 2008, how do those years compare with this year,
the ice hasn't reached the summer melt yet,

Well, you can check the progress daily for yourself. Go to:

http://arctic.atmos.uiuc.edu/cryosphere/

where you will be able to see that this years melt is already ahead
of the record year (2007) on the same date.

No I won't, and neither will the average person, video
requiring proprietary viewing programs is a pain, and most
of that page is old news.

What on earth are you talking about. Just look at the graph:

http://arctic.atmos.uiuc.edu/cryosph...urrent.365.jpg

or get a 5-yr-old child to do it if you are unsure of how to use the
Web.

On 27/05/08 17:00, in article
, "John M."
wrote:


or get a 5-yr-old child to do it if you are unsure of how to use the
Web.

Whataffool is "graph challenged"

Earl Evleth wrote:

On 26/05/08 22:10, in article ,
"Whata Fool" wrote:

It does not show the coming summer, and it looks like less
of a negative anomaly for the time of year it ends since about 2004.

Non-sense, as usual.

The trend in the decline of summer ice coverage has been established for
years. That tendency is supported the overall thinning of the total ice,
which makes survival through the summer less and less likely.

Next, a decrease in the ice coverage anomaly low
http://arctic.atmos.uiuc.edu/cryosph...rrent.anom.jpg

does not have to be continuous. If can fluctuate from at its low from
year to year but the overall trend can still be downward

There is nothing that says the trend can't start to move upward,
your clumsy attempt to spread propaganda is not worth responding to.

"Earl Evleth" wrote:

or get a 5-yr-old child to do it if you are unsure of how to use the
Web.

Whataffool is "graph challenged"



That's a very charitable view of his limitations.

On 27/05/08 19:40, in article ,
"Whata Fool" wrote:

There is nothing that says the trend can't start to move upward,

A trend is like coming out of the ice age with raging force
14,000 years ago.

On 27/05/08 20:33, in article
, "Dan Luke"
wrote:

Whataffool is "graph challenged"



That's a very charitable view of his limitations.


Well broadly he is intellectually challenged