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Earl Evleth wrote:

On 25/05/08 12:21, in article
, "Roger
Coppock" wrote:

NOAA: Above Normal Hurricane Season Ready To Set In


`
Maybe but last year's prediction were a bit off. Without
doubt, however, the US has had an exceptional number of
killer tornados and exceptional (record breaking) heat in the south west,
particularly Arizona and California.

How hot can it get, theoretically, in areas which are usually very hot?


Or, how cold can it get?

http://www.nws.noaa.gov/view/prodsBy...rodtype=public


http://geology.com/articles/geologist-salary.shtml


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...tures_by_state


Oh, look, two states had all time record highs in the 21st century.






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On May 25, 8:23 pm, Whata Fool wrote:
Earl Evleth wrote:

On 25/05/08 12:21, in article
, "Roger
Coppock" wrote:


NOAA: Above Normal Hurricane Season Ready To Set In


`
Maybe but last year's prediction were a bit off. Without
doubt, however, the US has had an exceptional number of
killer tornados and exceptional (record breaking) heat in the south west,
particularly Arizona and California.


How hot can it get, theoretically, in areas which are usually very hot?


Or, how cold can it get?

http://www.nws.noaa.gov/view/prodsBy...rodtype=public

http://geology.com/articles/geologist-salary.shtml

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...low_temperatur...

Oh, look, two states had all time record highs in the 21st century.


For once I will agree with Roger Hurricanes will probably increase
not because the globe is warming ,but because its coolng.
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"chemist" wrote:

For once I will agree with Roger Hurricanes will probably increase
not because the globe is warming ,but because its coolng.


The globe isn't cooling.

And you're a k00k.


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chemist wrote:

On May 25, 8:23 pm, Whata Fool wrote:
Earl Evleth wrote:

On 25/05/08 12:21, in article
, "Roger
Coppock" wrote:


NOAA: Above Normal Hurricane Season Ready To Set In


`
Maybe but last year's prediction were a bit off. Without
doubt, however, the US has had an exceptional number of
killer tornados and exceptional (record breaking) heat in the south west,
particularly Arizona and California.


How hot can it get, theoretically, in areas which are usually very hot?


Or, how cold can it get?

http://www.nws.noaa.gov/view/prodsBy...rodtype=public

http://geology.com/articles/geologist-salary.shtml

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...low_temperatur...

Oh, look, two states had all time record highs in the 21st century.


For once I will agree with Roger Hurricanes will probably increase
not because the globe is warming ,but because its coolng.


All storms are the result of clashes of moist air, warm air,
and cold air, and even dry air.

So warming and cooling are not enough information to predict
when or where.

And if they don't know when or where, how can they know "if"?


Like all future tellers, maybe subconsciously or even delusional,
they depend on the law of averages and the chance some years they may
get it right.

If the Arctic really warms up (not much chance of that without
the Gulf Stream), there should be less storms in the northern hemisphere
because everyplace would be like the equatorial regions that rarely
have storms.


I think it is good to predict storms, people really need to
be aware of the danger.

The thing that worries me the most is people staying at low
elevation (like in the Florida Keys in the last storm in 2005 and
got lucky the eye was a few miles too far away to get the elevated
local sea level that would have tore apart their shelters and
drowned them all), people need to get to high ground at the very
least, and a certain percentage do not.

The University of Louisiana took a survey of people in
New Orleans in 2004, and 50,000 or more said they would not evacuate.
That information should have prompted state and city officials
to impose martial law two days ahead of time and forcibly remove
all residents from areas not 20 feet above sea level, they could
have been housed in any building of 3 or more stories downtown.


And I don't understand the need for food distribution within
2 or 3 days of a disaster, it is easy to keep (but rotate) stocks
of dried foods and even water or beverages to last a month, it
costs very little for a months worth of crackers.

But people need to be in strong (smaller, well built) buildings,
at least 20 feet above sea level.

And prediction of less storms or less intense storms would
be counter productive in saving lives.





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"Earl Evleth" wrote
Maybe but last year's prediction were a bit off. Without
doubt, however, the US has had an exceptional number of
killer tornados and exceptional (record breaking) heat in the south west,
particularly Arizona and California.


And last year as well. Seems to be a decade of very active tornado
activity.




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Dan Luke wrote:
"chemist" wrote:

For once I will agree with Roger Hurricanes will probably increase
not because the globe is warming ,but because its coolng.


The globe isn't cooling.


The atmosphere, surface, sea surface, and most significantly
ocean at depth have all cooled over the last six years.

It could stop tomorrow, but yes, the globe is cooling.
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"Al Bedo" wrote in message
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Dan Luke wrote:
"chemist" wrote:

For once I will agree with Roger Hurricanes will probably increase
not because the globe is warming ,but because its coolng.


The globe isn't cooling.


The atmosphere, surface, sea surface, and most significantly
ocean at depth have all cooled over the last six years.

It could stop tomorrow, but yes, the globe is cooling.


Eh?

http://data.giss.nasa.gov/gistemp/graphs/Fig.A2.lrg.gif

http://data.giss.nasa.gov/gistemp/graphs/Fig.A.lrg.gif

http://data.giss.nasa.gov/gistemp/graphs/Fig.A3.lrg.gif


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Dan Luke wrote:

It could stop tomorrow, but yes, the globe is cooling.


Eh?

http://data.giss.nasa.gov/gistemp/graphs/Fig.A2.lrg.gif

http://data.giss.nasa.gov/gistemp/graphs/Fig.A.lrg.gif

http://data.giss.nasa.gov/gistemp/graphs/Fig.A3.lrg.gif



http://data.giss.nasa.gov/cgi-bin/gi...us=250&pol=reg
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"Al Bedo" wrote in message
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Dan Luke wrote:

It could stop tomorrow, but yes, the globe is cooling.


Eh?

http://data.giss.nasa.gov/gistemp/graphs/Fig.A2.lrg.gif

http://data.giss.nasa.gov/gistemp/graphs/Fig.A.lrg.gif

http://data.giss.nasa.gov/gistemp/graphs/Fig.A3.lrg.gif



http://data.giss.nasa.gov/cgi-bin/gi...us=250&pol=reg


How do these figures show the globe is cooling?


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Dan Luke wrote:
"Al Bedo" wrote in message
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Dan Luke wrote:

It could stop tomorrow, but yes, the globe is cooling.
Eh?

http://data.giss.nasa.gov/cgi-bin/gi...us=250&pol=reg


How do these figures show the globe is cooling?


The negative number (-.03) in the upper right corner of the plot
represents the cooling trend over the period.


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