DARPA doesn't much like what you have to say. How about those new and
improved levels of escaping methane? How about the extra 50
teratonnes worth of acidic h2o that's now part of our polluted
atmosphere?

What's going to happen when most of our natural gas has been
released?
Brad Guth Brad_Guth Brad.Guth BradGuth


Roger Coppock wrote:
CO2 Level at 650,000-Year High

According to the Earth System Research Laboratory of the
US National Oceanic & Atmospheric Administration, the May
monthly mean CO2 concentration measured at Mauna Loa was
388.49 ppmv. This is a new maximum for this data set,
the longest term and most frequently referenced CO2 data.

Also, according to the IPCC WG1 AR4 list of robust findings:

"Current atmospheric concentrations of CO2 and CH4,
and their associated positive radiative forcing,
far exceed those determined from ice core
measurements spanning the last 650,000 years."

Please see:
CO2 RISE: A 6 Degree of Freedom CURVE FIT
http://members.cox.net/rcoppock/CO2-6DegreesFreedom.jpg

Clearly, the atmospheric CO2 concentration is rising
exponentially. To see this, compare the trend of the
red colored points on the graph I have provided with
a straight line.

=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
These data may be found at:
ftp://ftp.cmdl.noaa.gov/ccg/co2/trends/co2_mm_mlo.txt

The yearly means of the 588 points of monthly data follow:
YEAR CO2_ppmv
1958 315.33 8 months of data
1959 315.98
1960 316.91
1961 317.65
1962 318.46
1963 318.99
1964 319.20 9 months of data
1965 320.03
1966 321.37
1967 322.18
1968 323.05
1969 324.62
1970 325.68
1971 326.32
1972 327.46
1973 329.68
1974 330.17
1975 331.14 11 months of data
1976 332.06
1977 333.78
1978 335.40
1979 336.78
1980 338.70
1981 340.11
1982 340.98 11 months of data
1983 342.84
1984 344.20 11 months of data
1985 345.87
1986 347.19
1987 348.98
1988 351.45
1989 352.89
1990 354.16
1991 355.48
1992 356.27
1993 356.96
1994 358.63
1995 360.63
1996 362.37
1997 363.47
1998 366.50
1999 368.14
2000 369.41
2001 371.07
2002 373.16
2003 375.80
2004 377.55
2005 379.75
2006 381.85
2007 383.72
2008 386.53 5 months of data


[Watch the fossil fools dust off an ancient archive of
pseudo-science and arcane mathematics in a lame attempt
to challenge these basic facts. That's entertainment!]

Peter Franks wrote:
Roger Coppock wrote:
CO2 has a strong correlation with global
mean surface temperatures

Explain that correlation in the context of the Little Ice Age.

Explain that correlation in the context of the Medieval Warming
Period.
Oh, right, those contexts aren't relevant to "global warming"; your
premises can't be challenged. Roger has posted, there is no
refutation.

Poor Petey just can't stand the fact that other folks here are smart
enough to see though his bull**** and he's not smart enough to come up with
smarter bull****. lol

Peter Franks wrote:
Roger Coppock wrote:
CO2 Level at 650,000-Year High

Irrelevant. Only data for the last 200 years (according to your
definition of the "global warming" relevance period.

A ridiculous lie.

"0ZBN0" wrote
And the globe continues to cool!!!!!!

Ya, just look at how the world is cooling..

Here are the global average temperatures since 1958. "o" = trend line.

Look at all those "o"'s lined up there. The trend is up, Up, UP.

And most recently the rate of increase is about 2'C per century.

View with mono spaced font.

1958 14.08 *******o***************
1959 14.06 ********o************
1960 13.99 *********o******
1961 14.08 **********o************
1962 14.04 ***********o********
1963 14.08 ************o**********
1964 13.79 **===========o
1965 13.89 *********====o
1966 13.97 **************o
1967 14.00 ***************o*
1968 13.96 **************==o
1969 14.08 *****************o*****
1970 14.03 ******************o
1971 13.90 **********=========o
1972 14.00 *****************===o
1973 14.14 ********************o******
1974 13.92 ***********==========o
1975 13.95 *************=========o
1976 13.84 ******=================o
1977 14.13 ************************o*
1978 14.02 ******************=======o
1979 14.09 ***********************===o
1980 14.18 ***************************o**
1981 14.27 ****************************o*******
1982 14.05 ********************========o
1983 14.26 *****************************o*****
1984 14.09 ***********************=======o
1985 14.06 *********************==========o
1986 14.13 **************************======o
1987 14.27 *********************************o**
1988 14.31 **********************************o****
1989 14.19 ******************************=====o
1990 14.38 ************************************o*******
1991 14.35 ************************************o****
1992 14.12 *************************============o
1993 14.14 ****************************===========o
1994 14.24 **********************************=====o
1995 14.38 ****************************************o***
1996 14.30 **************************************===o
1997 14.40 ******************************************o**
1998 14.57 *******************************************o****** *******
1999 14.33 ****************************************===o
2000 14.33 ****************************************====o
2001 14.48 *********************************************o**** *
2002 14.56 **********************************************o*** ******
2003 14.55 ***********************************************o** *****
2004 14.49 ************************************************o* *
2005 14.62 *************************************************o **********
2006 14.54 ************************************************** o****
2007 14.57 ************************************************** *o*****
------------------------------------------- Temperature

Correlation Coefficient .8529209

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5VMu14mBXAs

"Tunderbar" wrote
And yet the temps still aren't rising.

Well apparently not on Planet Denialism.

But back here on Planet Reality...

Here are the global average temperatures since 1958. "o" = trend line.

Look at all those "o"'s lined up there. The trend is up, Up, UP.

And most recently the rate of increase is about 2'C per century.

View with mono spaced font.

1958 14.08 *******o***************
1959 14.06 ********o************
1960 13.99 *********o******
1961 14.08 **********o************
1962 14.04 ***********o********
1963 14.08 ************o**********
1964 13.79 **===========o
1965 13.89 *********====o
1966 13.97 **************o
1967 14.00 ***************o*
1968 13.96 **************==o
1969 14.08 *****************o*****
1970 14.03 ******************o
1971 13.90 **********=========o
1972 14.00 *****************===o
1973 14.14 ********************o******
1974 13.92 ***********==========o
1975 13.95 *************=========o
1976 13.84 ******=================o
1977 14.13 ************************o*
1978 14.02 ******************=======o
1979 14.09 ***********************===o
1980 14.18 ***************************o**
1981 14.27 ****************************o*******
1982 14.05 ********************========o
1983 14.26 *****************************o*****
1984 14.09 ***********************=======o
1985 14.06 *********************==========o
1986 14.13 **************************======o
1987 14.27 *********************************o**
1988 14.31 **********************************o****
1989 14.19 ******************************=====o
1990 14.38 ************************************o*******
1991 14.35 ************************************o****
1992 14.12 *************************============o
1993 14.14 ****************************===========o
1994 14.24 **********************************=====o
1995 14.38 ****************************************o***
1996 14.30 **************************************===o
1997 14.40 ******************************************o**
1998 14.57 *******************************************o****** *******
1999 14.33 ****************************************===o
2000 14.33 ****************************************====o
2001 14.48 *********************************************o**** *
2002 14.56 **********************************************o*** ******
2003 14.55 ***********************************************o** *****
2004 14.49 ************************************************o* *
2005 14.62 *************************************************o **********
2006 14.54 ************************************************** o****
2007 14.57 ************************************************** *o*****
------------------------------------------- Temperature

Correlation Coefficient .8529209

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5VMu14mBXAs

"Peter Franks" wrote
Explain that correlation in the context of the Little Ice Age.

No need, as it was a regional phenomenon.


Explain that correlation in the context of the Medieval Warming Period.

No need as it too was a regional phenomenon.

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"0ZBN0" wrote
Cooling Underway, Global Temperature Dives in May

LLLLLLLIIIIIIIIIIAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRR

Here are the global average temperatures since 1958. "o" = trend line.

Look at all those "o"'s lined up there. The trend is up, Up, UP.

And most recently the rate of increase is about 2'C per century.

View with mono spaced font.

1958 14.08 *******o***************
1959 14.06 ********o************
1960 13.99 *********o******
1961 14.08 **********o************
1962 14.04 ***********o********
1963 14.08 ************o**********
1964 13.79 **===========o
1965 13.89 *********====o
1966 13.97 **************o
1967 14.00 ***************o*
1968 13.96 **************==o
1969 14.08 *****************o*****
1970 14.03 ******************o
1971 13.90 **********=========o
1972 14.00 *****************===o
1973 14.14 ********************o******
1974 13.92 ***********==========o
1975 13.95 *************=========o
1976 13.84 ******=================o
1977 14.13 ************************o*
1978 14.02 ******************=======o
1979 14.09 ***********************===o
1980 14.18 ***************************o**
1981 14.27 ****************************o*******
1982 14.05 ********************========o
1983 14.26 *****************************o*****
1984 14.09 ***********************=======o
1985 14.06 *********************==========o
1986 14.13 **************************======o
1987 14.27 *********************************o**
1988 14.31 **********************************o****
1989 14.19 ******************************=====o
1990 14.38 ************************************o*******
1991 14.35 ************************************o****
1992 14.12 *************************============o
1993 14.14 ****************************===========o
1994 14.24 **********************************=====o
1995 14.38 ****************************************o***
1996 14.30 **************************************===o
1997 14.40 ******************************************o**
1998 14.57 *******************************************o****** *******
1999 14.33 ****************************************===o
2000 14.33 ****************************************====o
2001 14.48 *********************************************o**** *
2002 14.56 **********************************************o*** ******
2003 14.55 ***********************************************o** *****
2004 14.49 ************************************************o* *
2005 14.62 *************************************************o **********
2006 14.54 ************************************************** o****
2007 14.57 ************************************************** *o*****
------------------------------------------- Temperature

Correlation Coefficient .8529209

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5VMu14mBXAs

Here are the global average temperatures since 1958. "o" = trend line.

Look at all those "o"'s lined up there. The trend is up, Up, UP.

And most recently the rate of increase is about 2'C per century.

View with mono spaced font.

1958 14.08 *******o***************
1959 14.06 ********o************
1960 13.99 *********o******
1961 14.08 **********o************
1962 14.04 ***********o********
1963 14.08 ************o**********
1964 13.79 **===========o
1965 13.89 *********====o
1966 13.97 **************o
1967 14.00 ***************o*
1968 13.96 **************==o
1969 14.08 *****************o*****
1970 14.03 ******************o
1971 13.90 **********=========o
1972 14.00 *****************===o
1973 14.14 ********************o******
1974 13.92 ***********==========o
1975 13.95 *************=========o
1976 13.84 ******=================o
1977 14.13 ************************o*
1978 14.02 ******************=======o
1979 14.09 ***********************===o
1980 14.18 ***************************o**
1981 14.27 ****************************o*******
1982 14.05 ********************========o
1983 14.26 *****************************o*****
1984 14.09 ***********************=======o
1985 14.06 *********************==========o
1986 14.13 **************************======o
1987 14.27 *********************************o**
1988 14.31 **********************************o****
1989 14.19 ******************************=====o
1990 14.38 ************************************o*******
1991 14.35 ************************************o****
1992 14.12 *************************============o
1993 14.14 ****************************===========o
1994 14.24 **********************************=====o
1995 14.38 ****************************************o***
1996 14.30 **************************************===o
1997 14.40 ******************************************o**
1998 14.57 *******************************************o****** *******
1999 14.33 ****************************************===o
2000 14.33 ****************************************====o
2001 14.48 *********************************************o**** *
2002 14.56 **********************************************o*** ******
2003 14.55 ***********************************************o** *****
2004 14.49 ************************************************o* *
2005 14.62 *************************************************o **********
2006 14.54 ************************************************** o****
2007 14.57 ************************************************** *o*****
------------------------------------------- Temperature

Correlation Coefficient .8529209

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5VMu14mBXAs

Here are the global average temperatures since 1958. "o" = trend line.

Look at all those "o"'s lined up there. The trend is up, Up, UP.

And most recently the rate of increase is about 2'C per century.

View with mono spaced font.

1958 14.08 *******o***************
1959 14.06 ********o************
1960 13.99 *********o******
1961 14.08 **********o************
1962 14.04 ***********o********
1963 14.08 ************o**********
1964 13.79 **===========o
1965 13.89 *********====o
1966 13.97 **************o
1967 14.00 ***************o*
1968 13.96 **************==o
1969 14.08 *****************o*****
1970 14.03 ******************o
1971 13.90 **********=========o
1972 14.00 *****************===o
1973 14.14 ********************o******
1974 13.92 ***********==========o
1975 13.95 *************=========o
1976 13.84 ******=================o
1977 14.13 ************************o*
1978 14.02 ******************=======o
1979 14.09 ***********************===o
1980 14.18 ***************************o**
1981 14.27 ****************************o*******
1982 14.05 ********************========o
1983 14.26 *****************************o*****
1984 14.09 ***********************=======o
1985 14.06 *********************==========o
1986 14.13 **************************======o
1987 14.27 *********************************o**
1988 14.31 **********************************o****
1989 14.19 ******************************=====o
1990 14.38 ************************************o*******
1991 14.35 ************************************o****
1992 14.12 *************************============o
1993 14.14 ****************************===========o
1994 14.24 **********************************=====o
1995 14.38 ****************************************o***
1996 14.30 **************************************===o
1997 14.40 ******************************************o**
1998 14.57 *******************************************o****** *******
1999 14.33 ****************************************===o
2000 14.33 ****************************************====o
2001 14.48 *********************************************o**** *
2002 14.56 **********************************************o*** ******
2003 14.55 ***********************************************o** *****
2004 14.49 ************************************************o* *
2005 14.62 *************************************************o **********
2006 14.54 ************************************************** o****
2007 14.57 ************************************************** *o*****
------------------------------------------- Temperature

Correlation Coefficient .8529209

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5VMu14mBXAs

CO2 Level at 650,000-Year High


wrote
Total stupidity as usual, from Roger Coppock.

An odd statement, given that he is just reporting the facts as known to
science.

On what basis do you make them? Faith in your own ignorance?