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Default Who Benefits From Trading Hot Air?

On Dec 15, 4:51*pm, "ooznb" wrote:
"Fran" wrote in message

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On Dec 15, 3:17 pm, Addinall wrote:





On Dec 15, 10:22 am, Fran wrote:


On Dec 15, 10:40 am, Addinall wrote:


On Dec 15, 9:35 am, Fran wrote:


On Dec 15, 1:17 am, "John M."
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On Dec 14, 1:25 pm, Fran wrote:


On Dec 14, 7:03 pm, chemist wrote:


On Dec 13, 10:00 pm, Fran wrote:


On Dec 13, 8:10 pm, chemist wrote:


On Dec 13, 5:30 am, Fran wrote:


Who Benefits From Trading Hot Air?


You, obviously and those supplying you with the hot air
you're blowing
in here. You've cornered the market on verbal flatus.


Fran


When AGW is proved to be the scam that it is then the
banking crash
that results from carbon trading will dwarf the current
one.


You are clearly clueless. Humans benefit when the biosphere
is
healthier. Somebody has to pay for that work. That somebody
should be
all the beneficiaries.


It's quite simple really.


That will be the disaster that the Gore prophesy and
profits cause.


You're obsessed. The question remains: Why?


Fran


I am not the one who is obsessed
Logically CO2 does not cause warming.


Empirically it does though, which is your problem, Tom. I'm too
polite
to comment on your "logic".


I'm not too polite though. Application of logic to deducing
results in
science doesn't work.


I'd disagree. Logical inferences are important. Misapplication of
logic, or specious reasoning are other matters.


Aristotle made a lot of mistakes and set human
kind back 1000 years by doing that. On this NG we have many people
like Bolger who do the same. Luckily the IPCC are not going to let
them set us back another 1000


One of the key absurdities here is that essentially, all the IPCC
has
shown is that policies that ought to have been pursued in the 1950s
are even more beneficial than was knowable then.


This is something the deniers rarely acknowledge, because if they
did,
they'd have to acknowledge that they are merely spruiking the
polluters' cause rather than pursuing a serious question of science
and human interest.


Fran knows less science than a sandshoe.


The squealing from your lot affirms the reason in the cause.


My 'lot'? Which 'lot' would that be Flan?


On the face of it, those who have appointed themselves the friends of
the big polluters, and who create sockpuppet armies to push their own
special brand of *misanthropy.
************************************************** ***

Did someone mention "misanthropy":????

The Anti-Human Agenda

by Dr. Tim Ball



Indeed, his agenda is utterly hostile to the idea that humans can
control their destiny and manipulate the environment to secure the
happiness of humanity. The Tim Balls of the world think that we humans
are irrelevant to the biosphere and thus must accepot its dictates,
even if this means catastrophe for us.

It seems he has mised out on what civilization is all about.

One can scarcely imagine anything more misanthropic than the case put
by the polluters cartel mouthpieces.

Fran

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