On Dec 16, 2:46*pm, "ooznb" wrote:
"Fran" wrote in message

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On Dec 16, 12:15 pm, "ooznb" wrote:
"Fran" wrote in message

....
On Dec 15, 1:13 am, "John M."
wrote:

On Dec 14, 1:23 pm, Fran wrote:
On Dec 14, 9:43 pm, MC wrote:

On Dec 14, 11:00 am, Fran wrote:

On Dec 13, 8:10 pm, chemist wrote:

On Dec 13, 5:30 am, Fran wrote:

Who Benefits From Trading Hot Air?

You, obviously and those supplying you with the hot air
you're
blowing
in here. You've cornered the market on verbal flatus.

Fran

When AGW is proved to be the scam that it is then the banking
crash
that results from carbon trading will dwarf the current one.

You are clearly clueless. Humans benefit when the biosphere is
healthier. Somebody has to pay for that work. That somebody
should
be
all the beneficiaries.

It's quite simple really.

That will be the disaster that the Gore prophesy and profits
cause.

You're obsessed. The question remains: Why?

Fran

You are the one obsessed. CO2 feeeds plants.

Look up "composition fallacy"

No CO2 no plants

When I

a) advocate an atmosphere without CO2
b) set out a plan for realising (a)

make the objection above

In the meantime ...

Look up "composition fallacy" and "Free Air CO2 enrichment studies

and we
all die. Higher levels of CO2 will lead to a much healthier
biosphere
-like when dinosaurs were running around...

And when humans weren't. You do not what happened 55.8 million years
ago don't you? Why not look it up and get back to the group?

Don't you know about that?

More than you it seems.

Good post, Fran. I don't like your left-leaning politics too much,
being a right-wing, green anarchist (and a militant nontheist) myself,
but your way of dealing with willfully (pig-) ignorant trolls is
superb.

I'm interested in what serves the life chances of humans, and given
that humans do best when they comprehend their legitimate interests
and find ways to collaborate equitably, I'm for that. In so far as
capitalism, and the structures that necessarily attend it (states for
example) militate against equitable collaboration, I'm opposed to
capitalism.
***********************************************

Spoken like a true socialist, mein comrade!

If you're going to do German, do it properly:

mein Kamerad.

Aber, Ich bin nicht dein Kamerad ...

Do you have any examples, in today's world or ever in history, of such a
"utopia"?

It will be a thing designed by working humanity as it strives for
freedom and self-expression.

No exapmles?
Thought so.
This crazy and terrifying "utopia" is, and will remain in your warped
socilialism-infected brain!!

"Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the
gospel of envy; its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery," Winston
Churchill


Spoken by a man who used chemical WMD against the Arabs in the British
Empire to "spread a lively terror" amongst them. He knew a bit about
sharing around the misery.

Fran

On Mon, 15 Dec 2008 20:42:07 -0800 (PST), Fran
wrote:

On Dec 16, 2:46=A0pm, "ooznb" wrote:
"Fran" wrote in message

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On Dec 16, 12:15 pm, "ooznb" wrote:
"Fran" wrote in message

.=
..
On Dec 15, 1:13 am, "John M."
wrote:

On Dec 14, 1:23 pm, Fran wrote:
On Dec 14, 9:43 pm, MC wrote:

On Dec 14, 11:00 am, Fran wrote:

On Dec 13, 8:10 pm, chemist wrote:

On Dec 13, 5:30 am, Fran wrote:

Who Benefits From Trading Hot Air?

You, obviously and those supplying you with the hot air
you're
blowing
in here. You've cornered the market on verbal flatus.

Fran

When AGW is proved to be the scam that it is then the bankin=
g
crash
that results from carbon trading will dwarf the current one.

You are clearly clueless. Humans benefit when the biosphere is
healthier. Somebody has to pay for that work. That somebody
should
be
all the beneficiaries.

It's quite simple really.

That will be the disaster that the Gore prophesy and profits
cause.

You're obsessed. The question remains: Why?

Fran

You are the one obsessed. CO2 feeeds plants.

Look up "composition fallacy"

No CO2 no plants

When I

a) advocate an atmosphere without CO2
b) set out a plan for realising (a)

make the objection above

In the meantime ...

Look up "composition fallacy" and "Free Air CO2 enrichment studies

and we
all die. Higher levels of CO2 will lead to a much healthier
biosphere
-like when dinosaurs were running around...

And when humans weren't. You do not what happened 55.8 million yea=
rs
ago don't you? Why not look it up and get back to the group?

Don't you know about that?

More than you it seems.

Good post, Fran. I don't like your left-leaning politics too much,
being a right-wing, green anarchist (and a militant nontheist) mysel=
f,
but your way of dealing with willfully (pig-) ignorant trolls is
superb.

I'm interested in what serves the life chances of humans, and given
that humans do best when they comprehend their legitimate interests
and find ways to collaborate equitably, I'm for that. In so far as
capitalism, and the structures that necessarily attend it (states for
example) militate against equitable collaboration, I'm opposed to
capitalism.
***********************************************

Spoken like a true socialist, mein comrade!

If you're going to do German, do it properly:

mein Kamerad.

Aber, Ich bin nicht dein Kamerad ...

Do you have any examples, in today's world or ever in history, of such=
a
"utopia"?

It will be a thing designed by working humanity as it strives for
freedom and self-expression.

No exapmles?
Thought so.
This crazy and terrifying "utopia" is, and will remain in your warped
socilialism-infected brain!!

"Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the
gospel of envy; its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery," Wins=
ton
Churchill


Spoken by a man who used chemical WMD against the Arabs in the British
Empire to "spread a lively terror" amongst them. He knew a bit about
sharing around the misery.

Fran


And jacking up the prices of electricity for totally artificial
reasons for everyone , including those with the least possible ability
to pay isnt sharing misery.
Thats what ETS does.