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November was 5th Warmest on the 129-year NASA record.
In the real world, outside the fossil fuel industry's spin and lies, global mean surface temperatures continue to rise. These globally averaged temperature data come from NASA http://data.giss.nasa.gov/gistemp/ta...LB.Ts+dSST.txt They represent the results of tens of millions of readings taken at thousands of land stations and ships around the globe over the last 129 years. Yes, the land data are corrected for the urban heat island effect. The sea data do not need to be. There are few urban centers in the sea. The last 128 yearly means of these data are graphed at http://members.cox.net/rcoppock/Glob...ean%20Temp.jpg The Mean November temperature over the last 129 years is 13.979 C. The Variance is 0.06829. The Standard Deviation, or SIGMA, is 0.2613. Rxy 0.7849 Rxy^2 0.6161 TEMP = 13.620641 + (0.005508 * (YEAR-1879)) Degrees of Freedom = 127 F = 203.827788 Confidence of nonzero correlation = approximately 0.999999999999999999999999999 (27 nines), which is darn close to 100%! The month of November in the year 2008, is linearly projected to be 14.331, yet it was 14.58. -- One SIGMA above the projected. The sum of the absolute errors is 17.133757 Equal weight exponential least squares fit: TEMP = 13.624155 * e^(.0003946 * (YEAR-1879)) The sum of the absolute errors is 17.092657 Rank of the months of November Year Temp C Anomaly Z score 2001 14.67 0.691 2.65 2006 14.65 0.671 2.57 2005 14.64 0.661 2.53 2004 14.63 0.651 2.49 2008 14.58 0.601 2.30 -- 1997 14.56 0.581 2.22 2002 14.51 0.531 2.03 2003 14.49 0.511 1.96 2007 14.48 0.501 1.92 1998 14.43 0.451 1.73 1990 14.41 0.431 1.65 1995 14.37 0.391 1.50 1996 14.35 0.371 1.42 MEAN 13.979 0.000 0.00 1906 13.65 -0.329 -1.26 1889 13.65 -0.329 -1.26 1898 13.61 -0.369 -1.41 1894 13.61 -0.369 -1.41 1887 13.61 -0.369 -1.41 1916 13.60 -0.379 -1.45 1891 13.60 -0.379 -1.45 1910 13.59 -0.389 -1.49 1908 13.59 -0.389 -1.49 1902 13.59 -0.389 -1.49 1892 13.58 -0.399 -1.53 1907 13.57 -0.409 -1.56 1919 13.55 -0.429 -1.64 1890 13.48 -0.499 -1.91 The most recent 177 continuous months, or 14 years and 9 months, on this GLB.Ts+dSST.txt data set are all above the 1951-1980 data set norm of 14 C. There are 1547 months of data on this data set: -- 668 of them are at or above the norm. -- 879 of them are below the norm. This run of 177 months above the norm is the result of a warming world. It is too large to occur by chance at any reasonable level of confidence. A major volcano eruption, thermonuclear war, or meteor impact could stop this warming trend for a couple of years, otherwise expect it to continue. |
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On Dec 16, 11:28*am, Roger Coppock wrote:
November was 5th Warmest on the 129-year NASA record. In the real world, outside the fossil fuel industry's spin and lies, global mean surface temperatures continue to rise. These globally averaged temperature data come from NASAhttp://data.giss.nasa.gov/gistemp/tabledata/GLB.Ts+dSST.txt They represent the results of tens of millions of readings taken at thousands of land stations and ships around the globe over the last 129 years. *Yes, the land data are corrected for the urban heat island effect. *The sea data do not need to be. There are few urban centers in the sea. The last 128 yearly means of these data are graphed athttp://members.cox.net/rcoppock/Global%20Mean%20Temp.jpg The Mean November temperature over the last 129 years is 13.979 C. The Variance is 0.06829. The Standard Deviation, or SIGMA, is 0.2613. Rxy 0.7849 * Rxy^2 0.6161 TEMP = 13.620641 + (0.005508 * (YEAR-1879)) Degrees of Freedom = 127 * * * * F = 203.827788 Confidence of nonzero correlation = approximately 0.999999999999999999999999999 (27 nines), which is darn close to 100%! The month of November in the year 2008, is linearly projected to be 14.331, * * * * * * * * *yet it was 14.58. -- One SIGMA above the projected. The sum of the absolute errors is 17.133757 Equal weight exponential least squares fit: TEMP = 13.624155 * e^(.0003946 * (YEAR-1879)) The sum of the absolute errors is 17.092657 *Rank of the months of November Year * Temp C * Anomaly * Z score 2001 * 14.67 * * 0.691 * * 2.65 2006 * 14.65 * * 0.671 * * 2.57 2005 * 14.64 * * 0.661 * * 2.53 2004 * 14.63 * * 0.651 * * 2.49 2008 * 14.58 * * 0.601 * * 2.30 -- 1997 * 14.56 * * 0.581 * * 2.22 2002 * 14.51 * * 0.531 * * 2.03 2003 * 14.49 * * 0.511 * * 1.96 2007 * 14.48 * * 0.501 * * 1.92 1998 * 14.43 * * 0.451 * * 1.73 1990 * 14.41 * * 0.431 * * 1.65 1995 * 14.37 * * 0.391 * * 1.50 1996 * 14.35 * * 0.371 * * 1.42 MEAN * 13.979 * *0.000 * * 0.00 1906 * 13.65 * *-0.329 * *-1.26 1889 * 13.65 * *-0.329 * *-1.26 1898 * 13.61 * *-0.369 * *-1.41 1894 * 13.61 * *-0.369 * *-1.41 1887 * 13.61 * *-0.369 * *-1.41 1916 * 13.60 * *-0.379 * *-1.45 1891 * 13.60 * *-0.379 * *-1.45 1910 * 13.59 * *-0.389 * *-1.49 1908 * 13.59 * *-0.389 * *-1.49 1902 * 13.59 * *-0.389 * *-1.49 1892 * 13.58 * *-0.399 * *-1.53 1907 * 13.57 * *-0.409 * *-1.56 1919 * 13.55 * *-0.429 * *-1.64 1890 * 13.48 * *-0.499 * *-1.91 The most recent 177 continuous months, or 14 years and 9 months, on this GLB.Ts+dSST.txt data set are all above the 1951-1980 data set norm of 14 C. There are 1547 months of data on this data set: * -- 668 of them are at or above the norm. * -- 879 of them are below the norm. This run of 177 months above the norm is the result of a warming world. *It is too large to occur by chance at any reasonable level of confidence. *A major volcano eruption, thermonuclear war, or meteor impact could stop this warming trend for a couple of years, otherwise expect it to continue. Is that with new and different fudgings by Hansen? Or with the previous months temps "mistakenly" being used instead of the actual months temps (AGAIN)? What *******izations and manipulations did it take for you assholes to come up with that? You ****ers can't be trusted with reading a single mercury thermometer in your own backyard, never mind presenting statistical compilations from datasets from around the world. ****ing idiots. |
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![]() "Roger Coppock" wrote in message ... November was 5th Warmest on the 129-year NASA record. In the real world, outside the fossil fuel industry's spin and lies, global mean surface temperatures continue to rise. These globally averaged temperature data come from NASA http://data.giss.nasa.gov/gistemp/ta...LB.Ts+dSST.txt They represent the results of tens of millions of readings taken at thousands of land stations and ships around the globe over the last 129 years. Yes, the land data are corrected for the urban heat island effect. The sea data do not need to be. There are few urban centers in the sea. The last 128 yearly means of these data are graphed at http://members.cox.net/rcoppock/Glob...ean%20Temp.jpg The Mean November temperature over the last 129 years is 13.979 C. The Variance is 0.06829. The Standard Deviation, or SIGMA, is 0.2613. Rxy 0.7849 Rxy^2 0.6161 TEMP = 13.620641 + (0.005508 * (YEAR-1879)) Degrees of Freedom = 127 F = 203.827788 Confidence of nonzero correlation = approximately 0.999999999999999999999999999 (27 nines), which is darn close to 100%! The month of November in the year 2008, is linearly projected to be 14.331, yet it was 14.58. -- One SIGMA above the projected. The sum of the absolute errors is 17.133757 Equal weight exponential least squares fit: TEMP = 13.624155 * e^(.0003946 * (YEAR-1879)) The sum of the absolute errors is 17.092657 Rank of the months of November Year Temp C Anomaly Z score 2001 14.67 0.691 2.65 2006 14.65 0.671 2.57 2005 14.64 0.661 2.53 2004 14.63 0.651 2.49 2008 14.58 0.601 2.30 -- 1997 14.56 0.581 2.22 2002 14.51 0.531 2.03 2003 14.49 0.511 1.96 2007 14.48 0.501 1.92 1998 14.43 0.451 1.73 1990 14.41 0.431 1.65 1995 14.37 0.391 1.50 1996 14.35 0.371 1.42 MEAN 13.979 0.000 0.00 1906 13.65 -0.329 -1.26 1889 13.65 -0.329 -1.26 1898 13.61 -0.369 -1.41 1894 13.61 -0.369 -1.41 1887 13.61 -0.369 -1.41 1916 13.60 -0.379 -1.45 1891 13.60 -0.379 -1.45 1910 13.59 -0.389 -1.49 1908 13.59 -0.389 -1.49 1902 13.59 -0.389 -1.49 1892 13.58 -0.399 -1.53 1907 13.57 -0.409 -1.56 1919 13.55 -0.429 -1.64 1890 13.48 -0.499 -1.91 The most recent 177 continuous months, or 14 years and 9 months, on this GLB.Ts+dSST.txt data set are all above the 1951-1980 data set norm of 14 C. There are 1547 months of data on this data set: -- 668 of them are at or above the norm. -- 879 of them are below the norm. This run of 177 months above the norm is the result of a warming world. It is too large to occur by chance at any reasonable level of confidence. A major volcano eruption, thermonuclear war, or meteor impact could stop this warming trend for a couple of years, otherwise expect it to continue. Coppock, you remind me of the old political rule: "If you can't dazzle them with brilliance, baffle them with bull****". |
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On Dec 16, 11:28*am, Roger Coppock wrote:
This run of 177 months above the norm is the result of a warming world. *It is too large to occur by chance at any reasonable level of confidence. *A major volcano eruption, thermonuclear war, or meteor impact could stop this warming trend for a couple of years, otherwise expect it to continue. And as usual poppycock. To show temperature statistics does absolutely nothing to support your belief in cause and effect from CO2. But that would be application of 'science' Give us a holler when the temp of 1998 is matched. That is some kind of warming trend you are all worried about that can't regain it's peak of more than ten years. Which means that the trend is stationary within a few hundreths of a degree. This level of variance is no more than inacuracy of your temperature averages in the conversion from Farenheit to celcius, since Farenheit is a more refined scale. We should look at the addition of stations. If there are more stations added over the last 50 yrs in the southern hemisphere than in the northern hemisphere, all of your readings and statistics are invalid. This is because the southern hemishere recieves more solar insolation than the northern hemisphere, since it is tilted to the sun when the earth is at perihilion. The moon temperature changes by 6C due to the eccentricity of the earth's orbit. Adding these warmer stations into your averaging, would boost the average although no warming occured. Or it would augment any normal warming trend which any valid climatologists would agree occur. Only bogus and obsessed greenie weenies wish to presume that any warming trend is caused by humans, in order to satiate their perverted wish to dominate other people. .. |
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On Dec 16, 1:12*pm, wrote:
[ . . . ] Give us a holler when the temp of 1998 is matched. That is some kind of warming trend you are all worried about that can't regain it's peak of more than ten years. Which means that the trend is stationary within a few hundreths of a degree. This level of variance is no more AGAIN: If you wonder why fossil fools are not respected by government, mainstream science and the media, you only need to get a basic education and then reread your statement above. It's too silly even to form the foundation for a rational debate. You would benefit from taking an introductory statistics course from your local junior college. Then you would realize how stupid your statement above is. A course in astronomy would also enlighten you about your even stupider statement about the Earth's axial tilt. |
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On Dec 16, 4:29*pm, Roger Coppock wrote:
On Dec 16, 1:12*pm, wrote: [ . . . ] Give us a holler when the temp of 1998 is matched. That is some kind of warming trend you are all worried about that can't regain it's peak of more than ten years. Which means that the trend is stationary within a few hundreths of a degree. This level of variance is no more AGAIN: If you wonder why fossil fools are not respected by government, mainstream science and the media, you only need to get a basic education and then reread your statement above. *It's too silly even to form the foundation for a rational debate. You would benefit from taking an introductory statistics course from your local junior college. Then you would realize how stupid your statement above is. Like I said, give us a holler when your trend exceeds the level of 98. In the meantime your trend is stalled or barely continueing. By no means in sync with rising CO2 levels or indicative of climate crisis. A course in astronomy would also enlighten you about your even stupider statement about the Earth's axial tilt. No what does that mean, IDIOT. The earth has an eccentric orbit. This means that every 6 months it reaches maximum distance and then in 6 months reaches minimum distance to the sun. Radiation energy decreases as an inverse square to distance, and luminosity changes also according to apparent size of the sun. The close approach or perihilion, occurs while the northern hemisphere is in winter. At this time being closer to the sun, the energy density of the sun's radiation is higher. When each hemisphere is tilted to the sun, the overall time that the surface recieves radiation is increased and radiation is recieved upon more area at a given point in time. When the southern hemisphere is tilted to the sun, it is recieving solar radiation which is more intense, so therefore the overall quantity of energy recieved and absorbed is greater in the southern hemisphere. Very clear and valid analysis which clearly proves that the southern hemisphere recieves greater solar energy. Sorry that it just flew right over the head of an entirely mechanically inept statitician such as yourself. On the moon, the difference in the distance to the sun causes a difference of 6C in the temperatures of the moon. So let's simply look at the addition of stations over the past 50 yrs and see if this is in any way a factor in statistical computations of averages. Facts are facts, regardless if it serves the Exxon devil or not. You can't go through your whole life presuming that the Exxon devil is your only adversary in your corrupt and fraudulent rendition of facts of climate and theoretical science. KD |
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On Dec 16, 6:28*pm, Roger Coppock wrote:
November was 5th Warmest on the 129-year NASA record. In the real world, outside the fossil fuel industry's spin and lies, global mean surface temperatures continue to rise. These globally averaged temperature data come from NASAhttp://data.giss.nasa.gov/gistemp/tabledata/GLB.Ts+dSST.txt They represent the results of tens of millions of readings taken at thousands of land stations and ships around the globe over the last 129 years. *Yes, the land data are corrected for the urban heat island effect. *The sea data do not need to be. There are few urban centers in the sea. The last 128 yearly means of these data are graphed athttp://members.cox.net/rcoppock/Global%20Mean%20Temp.jpg The Mean November temperature over the last 129 years is 13.979 C. The Variance is 0.06829. The Standard Deviation, or SIGMA, is 0.2613. Rxy 0.7849 * Rxy^2 0.6161 TEMP = 13.620641 + (0.005508 * (YEAR-1879)) Degrees of Freedom = 127 * * * * F = 203.827788 Confidence of nonzero correlation = approximately 0.999999999999999999999999999 (27 nines), which is darn close to 100%! The month of November in the year 2008, is linearly projected to be 14.331, * * * * * * * * *yet it was 14.58. -- One SIGMA above the projected. The sum of the absolute errors is 17.133757 Equal weight exponential least squares fit: TEMP = 13.624155 * e^(.0003946 * (YEAR-1879)) The sum of the absolute errors is 17.092657 *Rank of the months of November Year * Temp C * Anomaly * Z score 2001 * 14.67 * * 0.691 * * 2.65 2006 * 14.65 * * 0.671 * * 2.57 2005 * 14.64 * * 0.661 * * 2.53 2004 * 14.63 * * 0.651 * * 2.49 2008 * 14.58 * * 0.601 * * 2.30 -- 1997 * 14.56 * * 0.581 * * 2.22 2002 * 14.51 * * 0.531 * * 2.03 2003 * 14.49 * * 0.511 * * 1.96 2007 * 14.48 * * 0.501 * * 1.92 1998 * 14.43 * * 0.451 * * 1.73 1990 * 14.41 * * 0.431 * * 1.65 1995 * 14.37 * * 0.391 * * 1.50 1996 * 14.35 * * 0.371 * * 1.42 MEAN * 13.979 * *0.000 * * 0.00 1906 * 13.65 * *-0.329 * *-1.26 1889 * 13.65 * *-0.329 * *-1.26 1898 * 13.61 * *-0.369 * *-1.41 1894 * 13.61 * *-0.369 * *-1.41 1887 * 13.61 * *-0.369 * *-1.41 1916 * 13.60 * *-0.379 * *-1.45 1891 * 13.60 * *-0.379 * *-1.45 1910 * 13.59 * *-0.389 * *-1.49 1908 * 13.59 * *-0.389 * *-1.49 1902 * 13.59 * *-0.389 * *-1.49 1892 * 13.58 * *-0.399 * *-1.53 1907 * 13.57 * *-0.409 * *-1.56 1919 * 13.55 * *-0.429 * *-1.64 1890 * 13.48 * *-0.499 * *-1.91 The most recent 177 continuous months, or 14 years and 9 months, on this GLB.Ts+dSST.txt data set are all above the 1951-1980 data set norm of 14 C. There are 1547 months of data on this data set: * -- 668 of them are at or above the norm. * -- 879 of them are below the norm. This run of 177 months above the norm is the result of a warming world. *It is too large to occur by chance at any reasonable level of confidence. *A major volcano eruption, thermonuclear war, or meteor impact could stop this warming trend for a couple of years, otherwise expect it to continue. Sorry Roger, I just dont trust NASA data any more; there is to much smell of corruption and manipulation. If Hadley claimed this I would take notice, but not NASA. |
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On Dec 16, 6:45*pm, wrote:
On Dec 16, 11:28*am, Roger Coppock wrote: November was 5th Warmest on the 129-year NASA record. In the real world, outside the fossil fuel industry's spin and lies, global mean surface temperatures continue to rise. These globally averaged temperature data come from NASAhttp://data.giss..nasa.gov/gistemp/tabledata/GLB.Ts+dSST.txt They represent the results of tens of millions of readings taken at thousands of land stations and ships around the globe over the last 129 years. *Yes, the land data are corrected for the urban heat island effect. *The sea data do not need to be. There are few urban centers in the sea. The last 128 yearly means of these data are graphed athttp://members.cox.net/rcoppock/Global%20Mean%20Temp.jpg The Mean November temperature over the last 129 years is 13.979 C. The Variance is 0.06829. The Standard Deviation, or SIGMA, is 0.2613. Rxy 0.7849 * Rxy^2 0.6161 TEMP = 13.620641 + (0.005508 * (YEAR-1879)) Degrees of Freedom = 127 * * * * F = 203.827788 Confidence of nonzero correlation = approximately 0.999999999999999999999999999 (27 nines), which is darn close to 100%! The month of November in the year 2008, is linearly projected to be 14.331, * * * * * * * * *yet it was 14.58. -- One SIGMA above the projected. The sum of the absolute errors is 17.133757 Equal weight exponential least squares fit: TEMP = 13.624155 * e^(.0003946 * (YEAR-1879)) The sum of the absolute errors is 17.092657 *Rank of the months of November Year * Temp C * Anomaly * Z score 2001 * 14.67 * * 0.691 * * 2.65 2006 * 14.65 * * 0.671 * * 2.57 2005 * 14.64 * * 0.661 * * 2.53 2004 * 14.63 * * 0.651 * * 2.49 2008 * 14.58 * * 0.601 * * 2.30 -- 1997 * 14.56 * * 0.581 * * 2.22 2002 * 14.51 * * 0.531 * * 2.03 2003 * 14.49 * * 0.511 * * 1.96 2007 * 14.48 * * 0.501 * * 1.92 1998 * 14.43 * * 0.451 * * 1.73 1990 * 14.41 * * 0.431 * * 1.65 1995 * 14.37 * * 0.391 * * 1.50 1996 * 14.35 * * 0.371 * * 1.42 MEAN * 13.979 * *0.000 * * 0.00 1906 * 13.65 * *-0.329 * *-1.26 1889 * 13.65 * *-0.329 * *-1.26 1898 * 13.61 * *-0.369 * *-1.41 1894 * 13.61 * *-0.369 * *-1.41 1887 * 13.61 * *-0.369 * *-1.41 1916 * 13.60 * *-0.379 * *-1.45 1891 * 13.60 * *-0.379 * *-1.45 1910 * 13.59 * *-0.389 * *-1.49 1908 * 13.59 * *-0.389 * *-1.49 1902 * 13.59 * *-0.389 * *-1.49 1892 * 13.58 * *-0.399 * *-1.53 1907 * 13.57 * *-0.409 * *-1.56 1919 * 13.55 * *-0.429 * *-1.64 1890 * 13.48 * *-0.499 * *-1.91 The most recent 177 continuous months, or 14 years and 9 months, on this GLB.Ts+dSST.txt data set are all above the 1951-1980 data set norm of 14 C. There are 1547 months of data on this data set: * -- 668 of them are at or above the norm. * -- 879 of them are below the norm. This run of 177 months above the norm is the result of a warming world. *It is too large to occur by chance at any reasonable level of confidence. *A major volcano eruption, thermonuclear war, or meteor impact could stop this warming trend for a couple of years, otherwise expect it to continue. Is that with new and different fudgings by Hansen? Or with the previous months temps "mistakenly" being used instead of the actual months temps (AGAIN)? What *******izations and manipulations did it take for you assholes to come up with that? You ****ers can't be trusted with reading a single mercury thermometer in your own backyard, never mind presenting statistical compilations from datasets from around the world. ****ing idiots.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Oh come on, you dont have to use that kind of language to argue against AGW! |
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