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"Buerste" wrote in
: "Roger Coppock" wrote in message ... The monthly review of global warming facts. snip But, nobody believes your "data" because it's all posted by people and organizations that are in the tank for and funded by the AGW industry/religion. your list of unbelievable data vendors apparently includes Hadley Centre, of the U.K. Met Office Oak Ridge National Laboratory (USA) National Snow and Ice Data Center (USA) NASA (USA) NOAA (USA) surely you'd also want to mention Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change World Meteorological Organization European Geophysical Union American Geophysical Union Commonwealth Scientific and Industrial Research Organization United Nations Framework Convention on Climate Change any others you'd care to add? You constantly cherrypick and assemble a bunch of crap that makes your point. At the same time you dismiss anything that isn't just what you like. You have no credibility. But, keep up the good work! You make your opponents' case better than they do because you are so transparent and obvious. -- XO |
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![]() "Xavier Onnasis" wrote Hadley Centre, of the U.K. Met Office Oak Ridge National Laboratory (USA) National Snow and Ice Data Center (USA) NASA (USA) NOAA (USA) A current list of the stated Global Warming Conspirators. As stated by AmeriKKKan KKKonservatives 01) The New York Times 02) Virtually Every Scientist on earth 03) all of the scientific press, both journals and textbooks 04) All Environmentalists 05) the vast majority of anyone with an advanced degree 06) the UN 07) the IPCC 08) All professional scientific societies, but the Petroleum Institute 09) U.S. Defense Department 10) Wikipedia 11) The World Meteorological Organization (WMO) 12) The National Auronautics and Space Administration (NASA) 13) The British Antarctic Survey 14) The National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA) 15) Realclimate.org 16) The Hadley Center 17) The Royal Society 18) The Royal Astronomical Society 19) The National Academy of Sciences 20) The American Association for the Advancement of Science (AAAS) 21) The American Physical Society 22) The American Institute of Physics 23) The Woods Hole Research Centre 24) The American Chemical Society (ACS) 25) The American Geophysical Union (AGU) 26) The U.S. Geophysical Service (USGS) 27) The National Center for Atmospheric Research (NCAR) 28) The National Resources Defense Council (NRDC) 29) The Union of Concerned Scientists (UCS) 30) The National Wildlife Federation (NWF) 31) The World Wildlife Federation (WWF) 32) The Audubon Society 33) The U.S. Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) 34) Accuweather 35) Greenpiece 36) The world Conservation Union 37) The Sierra Club. 38) The board and article reviewers of the journal Nature 39) The board and article reviewers of the journal Science 40) The staff of Scientific American magazine 41) The staff of New Scientist Magazine. 42) The Queen of England 43) Michael Gorbachev 44) Muammar al-Gaddafi 45) Maurece Strong 46) Bill Gates 47) Ted Turner 48) Warren Buffet 49) Rupert Murdoch 50) Bill Moyers 51) Dr. David Suzuki 52) Stephen Hawking 53) ABC News 54) NBC News 55) CBS News 56) The Public Broadcasting system 57) And lets not forget - Al Gore. |
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![]() On 12/28/08 6:04 PM, in article , "Xavier Onnasis" wrote: "Buerste" wrote in : "Roger Coppock" wrote in message ... The monthly review of global warming facts. snip But, nobody believes your "data" because it's all posted by people and organizations that are in the tank for and funded by the AGW industry/religion. your list of unbelievable data vendors apparently includes Hadley Centre, of the U.K. Met Office Oak Ridge National Laboratory (USA) National Snow and Ice Data Center (USA) NASA (USA) NOAA (USA) GISS Commerce Department Imposes Gag Order on Government Scientists An order has been issued by the U.S. Department of Commerce that controls what federal government climate, weather and marine scientists can say to the media or in public, even when they are speaking as private citizens. WASHINGTON, DC, April 4, 2007 (ENS) - Under rules posted Thursday, these federal scientists must obtain agency pre-approval to speak or write, whether on or off-duty, concerning any scientific topic deemed "of official interest," according to agency documents released by a national association of government employees in natural resources agencies. "This ridiculous gag order ignores the First Amendment and disrespects the world-renowned professionals who work within Commerce agencies," said attorney Jeff Ruch, executive director with Public Employees for Environmental Responsibility, PEER. The only exception to the pre-approval requirement, is that "In an emergency, and especially where there is an imminent risk to life or property, an official communication related to the emergency may be made, so long as the procedures of the relevant operating unit (if any) are followed and applicable law is complied with," the order states. surely you'd also want to mention Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change ** From the hockey stick on down its report is the product of computer doctors using data compiled to provide a prearranged conclusion. The two main "scientific" claims of the IPCC are the claim that "the globe is warming" and "Increases in carbon dioxide emissions are responsible". Evidence for both of these claims is fatally flawed. To start with the "global warming" claim. It is based on a graph showing that "mean annual global temperature" has been increasing. This claim fails from two fundamental facts **1. No average temperature of any part of the earth's surface, over any period, has ever been made. How can you derive a "global average" when you do not even have a single "local" average? What they actually use is the procedure used from 1850, which is to make one measurement a day at the weather station from a maximum/minimum thermometer. The mean of these two is taken to be the average. No statistician could agree that a plausible average can be obtained this way. The potential bias is more than the claimed "global warming. **2. The sample is grossly unrepresentative of the earth's surface, mostly near to towns. No statistician could accept an "average" based on such a poor sample. It cannot possibly be "corrected" It is of interest that frantic efforts to "correct" for these uncorrectable errors have produced mean temperature records for the USA and China which show no overall "warming" at all. If they were able to "correct" the rest, the same result is likely And, then after all, there has been no "global warming", however measured, for eight years, and this year is all set to be cooling. As a result it is now politically incorrect to speak of "global warming". The buzzword is "Climate Change" which is still blamed on the non-existent "warming" ** Dr Vincent Gray, a member of the UN IPCC Expert Reviewers Panel since its inception. World Meteorological Organization European Geophysical Union American Geophysical Union Commonwealth Scientific and Industrial Research Organization United Nations Framework Convention on Climate Change You constantly cherrypick and assemble a bunch of crap that makes your point. At the same time you dismiss anything that isn't just what you like. You have no credibility. But, keep up the good work! You make your opponents' case better than they do because you are so transparent and obvious. |
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