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On Jan 14, 6:29 pm, wrote:
obzon wrote:
HOW many times have you heard or read words to the effect that 4000
scientists from the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate change (IPCC)
supported the claims about a significant human influence on climate?


Usually only when I read denialist nonsense: such a claim would be an
appeal to popularity, which is a logical fallacy that scientists would
not indulge in.

In other words, whether 4000 scientists agree with something or not is
a manufactured controversy used as a red herring/strawman by the idiot
denialists.


Excellent!

My feelings exactly -- how many scientists agree
on something is irrelevant.

So are you simply putting on a pretense of
being rational about AGW, or are you actually
open-minded and rational about it?

How about discussing the facts rationally?

Here are some earlier arguments, put
together on these web pages:

http://bhanwara.blogspot.com/2008/11...ainst-co2.html
http://bhanwara.blogspot.com/2008/11...ow-global.html
http://bhanwara.blogspot.com/2009/01...for-alarm.html
http://bhanwara.blogspot.com/2008/11...stand-any.html
http://bhanwara.blogspot.com/2008/09...g-picture.html
http://bhanwara.blogspot.com/2008/09...cientists.html
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true.blue.bluey - good luck finding any facts in that lot.


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Old January 16th 09, 05:45 PM posted to alt.global-warming,sci.environment,sci.skeptic,sci.geo.meteorology
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On Jan 16, 10:33*am, "DeadFrog" wrote:
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On Jan 14, 6:29 pm, wrote:

obzon wrote:
HOW many times have you heard or read words to the effect that 4000
scientists from the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate change (IPCC)
supported the claims about a significant human influence on climate?


Usually only when I read denialist nonsense: such a claim would be an
appeal to popularity, which is a logical fallacy that scientists would
not indulge in.


In other words, whether 4000 scientists agree with something or not is
a manufactured controversy used as a red herring/strawman by the idiot
denialists.


Excellent!

My feelings exactly -- how many scientists agree
on something is irrelevant.

So are you simply putting on a pretense of
being rational about AGW, or are you actually
open-minded and rational about it?

How about discussing the facts rationally?

Here are some earlier arguments, put
together on these web pages:

http://bhanwara.blogspot.com/2008/11...oncerned-scien...
*****************************
true.blue.bluey - good luck finding any facts in that lot.


Not to worry, true.blue.bluey appears a true AGWer.
In other words, he is not bothered by facts and logic.
Faith is his guiding light.
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On Jan 16, 10:33 am, "DeadFrog" wrote:
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On Jan 14, 6:29 pm, wrote:

obzon wrote:
HOW many times have you heard or read words to the effect that 4000
scientists from the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate change (IPCC)
supported the claims about a significant human influence on climate?


Usually only when I read denialist nonsense: such a claim would be an
appeal to popularity, which is a logical fallacy that scientists would
not indulge in.


In other words, whether 4000 scientists agree with something or not is
a manufactured controversy used as a red herring/strawman by the idiot
denialists.


Excellent!

My feelings exactly -- how many scientists agree
on something is irrelevant.

So are you simply putting on a pretense of
being rational about AGW, or are you actually
open-minded and rational about it?

How about discussing the facts rationally?

Here are some earlier arguments, put
together on these web pages:

http://bhanwara.blogspot.com/2008/11...oncerned-scien...
*****************************
true.blue.bluey - good luck finding any facts in that lot.


Not to worry, true.blue.bluey appears a true AGWer.
In other words, he is not bothered by facts and logic.
**********************************
Oh, you are priceless. Are you still denying the advances in science made in
the last 60 years?

Denialism is your faith.

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On Jan 16, 11:57*am, "DeadFrog" wrote:
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On Jan 14, 6:29 pm, wrote:


obzon wrote:
HOW many times have you heard or read words to the effect that 4000
scientists from the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate change (IPCC)
supported the claims about a significant human influence on climate?


Usually only when I read denialist nonsense: such a claim would be an
appeal to popularity, which is a logical fallacy that scientists would
not indulge in.


In other words, whether 4000 scientists agree with something or not is
a manufactured controversy used as a red herring/strawman by the idiot
denialists.


Excellent!


My feelings exactly -- how many scientists agree
on something is irrelevant.


So are you simply putting on a pretense of
being rational about AGW, or are you actually
open-minded and rational about it?


How about discussing the facts rationally?


Here are some earlier arguments, put
together on these web pages:


http://bhanwara.blogspot.com/2008/11...-defense-again.......
*****************************
true.blue.bluey - good luck finding any facts in that lot.


Not to worry, true.blue.bluey appears a true AGWer.
In other words, he is not bothered by facts and logic.
**********************************
Oh, you are priceless. Are you still denying the advances in science made in
the last 60 years?

Denialism is your faith.


How does that work?

If I deny that CO2 can cause warming - then
that means I am denying the advances in
science made in the last 60 years, and
am denying the earth is round, and am
denying the earth moves around the sun....?

I can sort of see how Al Gore would like
science to proceed.

a) Scientist favored by Al Gore or his
successors arrives upon hypothesis X.

b) Anybody who denies hypothesis X
is therefore a flat earther, a geocentrist,
and so on.

c) Hypothesis X therefore is absolute truth.
Only flat-earthers, geocentrists and
so on deny it, so clearly, it is true.

d) Until the next Al Gore comes up
with the next "most favored theory".
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On Jan 16, 11:57 am, "DeadFrog" wrote:
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On Jan 16, 10:33 am, "DeadFrog" wrote:





wrote in message


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On Jan 14, 6:29 pm, wrote:


obzon wrote:
HOW many times have you heard or read words to the effect that 4000
scientists from the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate change (IPCC)
supported the claims about a significant human influence on climate?


Usually only when I read denialist nonsense: such a claim would be an
appeal to popularity, which is a logical fallacy that scientists would
not indulge in.


In other words, whether 4000 scientists agree with something or not is
a manufactured controversy used as a red herring/strawman by the idiot
denialists.


Excellent!


My feelings exactly -- how many scientists agree
on something is irrelevant.


So are you simply putting on a pretense of
being rational about AGW, or are you actually
open-minded and rational about it?


How about discussing the facts rationally?


Here are some earlier arguments, put
together on these web pages:


http://bhanwara.blogspot.com/2008/11...-defense-again......
*****************************
true.blue.bluey - good luck finding any facts in that lot.


Not to worry, true.blue.bluey appears a true AGWer.
In other words, he is not bothered by facts and logic.
**********************************
Oh, you are priceless. Are you still denying the advances in science made
in
the last 60 years?

Denialism is your faith.


How does that work?

If I deny that CO2 can cause warming - then
that means I am denying the advances in
science made in the last 60 years, and
am denying the earth is round, and am
denying the earth moves around the sun....?
*************************************
I wouldn't put past you.



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