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Accuweather
http://global-warming.accuweather.co...g_but_how.html

"A study of the Antarctic and Greenland ice
sheets by two Penn State Geoscience
Professors, Dr. Richard Alley (a lead
author on the IPCC) and Dr. Evan Pugh
has confirmed that both ice sheets are
indeed melting, but the amounts that will
melt and the time it will take are still
unknown."

David Christainsen - Meteorologist

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On Feb 19, 9:57*am, David wrote:
Accuweatherhttp://global-warming.accuweather.com/2009/02/ice_sheets_are_melting_...

"A study of the Antarctic and Greenland ice
sheets by two Penn State Geoscience
Professors, Dr. Richard Alley (a lead
author on the IPCC) and Dr. Evan Pugh
has confirmed that both ice sheets are
indeed melting, but the amounts that will
melt and the time it will take are still
unknown."

David Christainsen - Meteorologist


Let me guess, the Antarctic ice is melting right about now in the
middle of the southern hemispheres summer and the arctic ice will
start melting in August. Go figure.
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http://nrmsc.usgs.gov/repeatphoto/overview.htm

Go figure.......


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On Feb 19, 9:57 am, David wrote:
Accuweatherhttp://global-warming.accuweather.com/2009/02/ice_sheets_are_melting_...

"A study of the Antarctic and Greenland ice
sheets by two Penn State Geoscience
Professors, Dr. Richard Alley (a lead
author on the IPCC) and Dr. Evan Pugh
has confirmed that both ice sheets are
indeed melting, but the amounts that will
melt and the time it will take are still
unknown."

David Christainsen - Meteorologist


Let me guess, the Antarctic ice is melting right about now in the
middle of the southern hemispheres summer and the arctic ice will
start melting in August. Go figure.


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David wrote:
Accuweather
http://global-warming.accuweather.co...g_but_how.html

"A study of the Antarctic and Greenland ice
sheets by two Penn State Geoscience
Professors, Dr. Richard Alley (a lead
author on the IPCC) and Dr. Evan Pugh
has confirmed that both ice sheets are
indeed melting, but the amounts that will
melt and the time it will take are still
unknown."

David Christainsen - Meteorologist


About enough to cause a sea level rising by about 1 mm/yr.

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On Sat, 21 Feb 2009 10:16:50 +0100, IQ wrote:

David wrote:
Accuweather
http://global-warming.accuweather.co...g_but_how.html

"A study of the Antarctic and Greenland ice
sheets by two Penn State Geoscience
Professors, Dr. Richard Alley (a lead
author on the IPCC) and Dr. Evan Pugh
has confirmed that both ice sheets are
indeed melting, but the amounts that will
melt and the time it will take are still
unknown."

David Christainsen - Meteorologist


About enough to cause a sea level rising by about 1 mm/yr.



Overall Sea level increase is (4.0mm + x * 0.18mm)/yr.,x=0. (2008),
x=92 (2100).

references and math..

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.e...7?dmode=source


Selected recent references.

February 8, 2009
"Polar ice caps melting faster"
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/new...cle5683655.ece

"Cazenave’s data show that in the past 15 years sea levels have been
rising at 3.4mm a year, much faster than the average 1.7mm recorded by
tidal gauges over the past 50 years."


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T. Keating wrote:
On Sat, 21 Feb 2009 10:16:50 +0100, IQ wrote:

David wrote:
Accuweather
http://global-warming.accuweather.co...g_but_how.html

"A study of the Antarctic and Greenland ice
sheets by two Penn State Geoscience
Professors, Dr. Richard Alley (a lead
author on the IPCC) and Dr. Evan Pugh
has confirmed that both ice sheets are
indeed melting, but the amounts that will
melt and the time it will take are still
unknown."

David Christainsen - Meteorologist

About enough to cause a sea level rising by about 1 mm/yr.



Overall Sea level increase is (4.0mm + x * 0.18mm)/yr.,x=0. (2008),
x=92 (2100).

references and math..

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.e...7?dmode=source


Selected recent references.

February 8, 2009
"Polar ice caps melting faster"
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/new...cle5683655.ece

"Cazenave’s data show that in the past 15 years sea levels have been
rising at 3.4mm a year, much faster than the average 1.7mm recorded by
tidal gauges over the past 50 years."


There are more contributors to sea level change, one of them is the
warming signal causing a steric effect.

The problem with tide gauges is that they see a local effect, satellite
altimetry sees a global steric + mass effect.

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On 19 Feb, 15:57, David wrote:

David Christainsen - Meteorologist


I am not a meteorologist - butI do know that meteorology and
clmatology are different disciplines. Are you a climatologist too?

Ian
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On Feb 21, 10:54*am, wrote:
On 19 Feb, 15:57, David wrote:

David Christainsen - Meteorologist


I am not a meteorologist - butI do know that meteorology and
clmatology are different disciplines. Are you a climatologist too?

Ian


Yes.

David Christainsen - Meteorologist
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"Van Chocstraw" wrote
Antarctic ice sheets are growing.


Nope. sorry. Wrong again.

The antarctic is losing nearly 100 cubic miles of ice per year.

MMMMMMOOOOOOOORRRRRRRROOOOOOOONNNNNNN


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I am not a meteorologist


And neither is David Christainsen. He is lying when he claims to be one,
and has admitted so himself.





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