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On Feb 20, 10:36 am, Malcolm Turnball
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bnooz wrote:
Esti Ahronovitz
18 Feb 2009
The blackboard in Prof. Nir Shaviv's office in the Department of Physics at
Hebrew University is covered with equations and graphs.
Golly, must be one of them smart fellers then.
he's a quack who got his degree from email spam.

Is that all you guys have? Honestly. Is your only response ad hominem?
Just outright Goreanly-arrogant dismiss-out-of-hand ad hominem. You
take a scientific man of un-reproachable intelligence and reputation
and if he shows any sign of disagreeing with the activist agenda of
the day, you instantly dismiss him as a quack or whatever denigrating
label you can think of on the spot.

Pretty shallow pool of debating points there buddy. Shows just how
little actual scientific debating points you have access to on your
side of the discussion. ****ing illiterate agw activist morons, the
lot of you.

To get it back on track and off the ad hominem attacks, look at what he
says:
"I demonstrated in the article
that the Ice Ages correlate chronologically with our traversing the arms of
the Milky Way. In other words, every 145 million years there is an Ice Age.
The conclusion is that cosmic rays affect the earth's temperature on long
time-scales, too."

I have no problem with that as an interesting theory - the question is,
what has a 145 million year cycle got to do with GW here and now?

T.

On Feb 20, 1:38*pm, Tom P wrote:
wrote:
On Feb 20, 10:36 am, Malcolm Turnball
wrote:
wrote:
bnooz wrote:
Esti Ahronovitz
18 Feb 2009
The blackboard in Prof. Nir Shaviv's office in the Department of Physics at
Hebrew University is covered with equations and graphs.
Golly, must be one of them smart fellers then.
he's a quack who got his degree from email spam.

Is that all you guys have? Honestly. Is your only response ad hominem?
Just outright Goreanly-arrogant dismiss-out-of-hand ad hominem. You
take a scientific man of un-reproachable intelligence and reputation
and if he shows any sign of disagreeing with the activist agenda of
the day, you instantly dismiss him as a quack or whatever denigrating
label you can think of on the spot.

Pretty shallow pool of debating points there buddy. Shows just how
little actual scientific debating points you have access to on your
side of the discussion. ****ing illiterate agw activist morons, the
lot of you.

To get it back on track and off the ad hominem attacks, look at what he
says:
"I demonstrated in the article
that the Ice Ages correlate chronologically with our traversing the arms of
the Milky Way. In other words, every 145 million years there is an Ice Age.
The conclusion is that cosmic rays affect the earth's temperature on long
time-scales, too."

I have no problem with that as an interesting theory - the question is,
what has a 145 million year cycle got to do with GW here and now?

T.- Hide quoted text -

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Here's a link to Nir Shaviv's website

http://www.sciencebits.com/myresearch

On 2/20/09 4:38 PM, in article , "Tom P"
wrote:
wrote:
bnooz wrote:
Esti Ahronovitz
18 Feb 2009
The blackboard in Prof. Nir Shaviv's office in the Department of Physics
at
Hebrew University is covered with equations and graphs.


To get it back on track look at what he says:
"I demonstrated in the article
that the Ice Ages correlate chronologically with our traversing the arms of
the Milky Way. In other words, every 145 million years there is an Ice Age.
The conclusion is that cosmic rays affect the earth's temperature on long
time-scales, too."

I have no problem with that as an interesting theory - the question is,
what has a 145 million year cycle got to do with GW here and now?

** Indeed it is very interesting, but his timeline
destroys the validity somewhat.

It is well established that the global climate
cycle is 100,000 years including a 12,000 year
interglacial period. Since the last ice age ended
12,000 years ago one might assume that the
next is on its way.

In 1979, Dr Genevieve Woillard, a paleologist in France,
concluded from detailed studies that the shift from a
warm, interglacial climate to ice age conditions at the
beginning of the last ice age, some 100,000 years ago,
took "less than 20 years." Her observations led her to
conclude we may be in a similar period of rapid
climatic change.

Research has shown that this 20-year period is one in
which Mother Nature wreaks havoc on humanity.

If the unchallenged results of the work of Woillard and
others who studied past ice ages are any indication of
the pace of glaciation, once it starts, the transition
period is a mere 20 years or so. And we may be well
into that 20-year period now. Woillard estimated that
the period before that final 20 years - when the earth
began gearing up for an end to the interglacial period
- could be as long as 150 years or as short as 75 yrs."

According to Woillard's studies and those of other
paleological climate researchers, the transition
between interglacial and glacial periods is one of
increasing violence ‹ more volcanic eruptions,
storms, earthquakes, and other natural disasters.

Tom P wrote:
To get it back on track and off the ad hominem attacks, look at what
he says:
"I demonstrated in the article
that the Ice Ages correlate chronologically with our traversing the
arms of the Milky Way. In other words, every 145 million years there
is an Ice Age. The conclusion is that cosmic rays affect the earth's
temperature on long time-scales, too."

I have no problem with that as an interesting theory - the question
is, what has a 145 million year cycle got to do with GW here and now?


Pretty slow on the uptake, buddy. I didn't even read the article and
deduced from the final sentence that cosmic rays affect the earth's
temperature on SHORT time-scales, as well. (more cosmic rays, more cloud
formation, etc.)

On 2/24/09 2:56 PM, in article ,
"Cat_in_awe" wrote:

Tom P wrote:
To get it back on track and off the ad hominem attacks, look at what
he says:
"I demonstrated in the article
that the Ice Ages correlate chronologically with our traversing the
arms of the Milky Way. In other words, every 145 million years there
is an Ice Age. The conclusion is that cosmic rays affect the earth's
temperature on long time-scales, too."

I have no problem with that as an interesting theory - the question
is, what has a 145 million year cycle got to do with GW here and now?


Pretty slow on the uptake, buddy. I didn't even read the article and
deduced from the final sentence that cosmic rays affect the earth's
temperature on SHORT time-scales, as well. (more cosmic rays, more cloud
formation, etc.)

** Sorry kiddies, The globe operates in 100,000
year cycles. The last ice age ended 12,000
years ago. The interglacial period is ending
and the iceman cometh. It may be 75 years
or 1,000 years before the ice begins creeping
inexorably toward the equator. But
it_is_coming to a town near you.