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Default Environmental disaster avoided on ozone loss

On Mar 20, 7:36*am, "Birdog" wrote:
"Roger Coppock" wrote in message

...
NASA: Environmental disaster avoided on ozone loss

By SETH BORENSTEIN

WASHINGTON (AP) — Here's rare good news about an environmental crisis:
We dodged disaster with the ozone layer. A NASA study about ozone-
munching chemicals from aerosol sprays and refrigeration used a
computer model to play a game of what-if. What if the world 22 years
ago didn't agree to cut back on chlorofluorocarbons which cause a
seasonal ozone hole to form near the South Pole?

---------------------------------------------------------------------------*---------------------------------------------------------------------------*---

Uh huh!!! Did anyone notice that this ozone hole crisis, DuPont's patent on
it's (Prestone) antifreeze ran out, and DuPont just coincidentally had an
acceptable substitute ready for market at just about the same time??? At
least, unlike the ban on DDT, this one didn't kill millions of people!


"Uh huh!!! Did anyone notice that this ozone hole crisis, DuPont's
patent on
it's (Prestone) antifreeze ran out, and DuPont just coincidentally had
an
acceptable substitute ready for market at just about the same time???
At
least, unlike the ban on DDT, this one didn't kill millions of people!
"

Yo DICKHEAD That piece of rubbish you just posted is absolute garbage
per non other than the Drudge report. Take your political POV and
stick it

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On Mar 20, 11:16 am, "marcodbeast" wrote:
wrote:
On Mar 20, 9:39 am, "marcodbeast" wrote:
wrote:
On Mar 20, 1:14 am, Roger Coppock wrote:
NASA: Environmental disaster avoided on ozone loss


By SETH BORENSTEIN


WASHINGTON (AP) — Here's rare good news about an environmental
crisis: We dodged disaster with the ozone layer. A NASA study
about ozone- munching chemicals from aerosol sprays and
refrigeration used a computer model to play a game of what-if.
What if the world 22 years ago didn't agree to cut back on
chlorofluorocarbons which cause a seasonal ozone hole to form
near the South Pole?


NASA atmospheric scientist Paul Newman said the answer is a
"bizarre world."


By 2065, two-thirds of the protective ozone layer would have
vanished and "the ozone hole covers the Earth." And the CFCs,
which are long- lived potent greenhouse gases, would have pushed
the world's temperature up an extra 4 degrees.
[ . . . ]
"It is a real horrible place," Newman told The Associated Press.
But that dreadful scenario was "a world avoided," according to
the paper published this week in the journal Atmospheric
Chemistry and Physics.


After scientists raised warnings in the early 1970s — later
earning a Nobel Prize — 193 nations agreed in the1987 treaty
called the Montreal Protocol to cut CFC emissions. CFCs had been
used in air conditioning, aerosol sprays, foam packaging and
other products.


Newman, the co-chair of the protocol's scientific panel, said the
study provides hope that the world can do the same thing on
another looming but even harder to solve environmental problem:
Global warming.


"There's a huge lesson to be learned here," said Paul Wapner,
director of Global Environmental Politics at American University.
"In significant cases, human beings can get together and arrive
at international or global principles and avoid ecological
catastrophe."


On the Net:


NASA's ozone study:


http://www.nasa.gov/topics/earth/fea...d_avoided.html

The United Nations' ozone page:


http://ozone.unep.org/


The entire article is he


http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/...h9TB0qV69YNVYL...


No kidding. Computer models prove that? Amazing. Considering that
they've been clearly shown to be unable to predict anything useful
in terms of the climate.


A completely insane lie. lol


But they can be used to confirm the horrors of


ozone on the world. Dr Susan Solomon ought to be propud of her
work on behalf of the anti-ozone movement and now on behalf of
the IPCC.


Just more garbage-in garbage-out Mannian manipulation of data and
algorithems to fake some modicum of credibility. It has failed as
usual.


A completely insane lie. lol


Some people just have no professional pride. That they would
actually go thru that kind of charade and actually put their
signatures on it. Shame.


A completely insane lie. lol- Hide quoted text -


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nice trolling.... moron.


You make us look like geniuses by comparison, keep up the good work.


Denialist for "I cannot refute a thing you said."- Hide quoted text -

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... says the troll that has never posted anything of substance


lie

but
continual false accusations of lying....


lie


moron....another post that shows the stark contrast between the
activist rantings of idiotic agwers and the steady strong reason of us
non-alarmists.


HAW HAW HAW HAW HAW HAW

You were funnier when you were threatening me!


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NASA: Environmental disaster avoided on ozone loss

Really, then explain how the fact that CFC use has continued to increase in
the new booming economies such as China and India?

While China stopped exporting CFCs, they continue to use them at an huge
rate.

ditto for India.

So CFC use is continuing to increase, so exactly how is some supposed
disaster being avoided?


Super Turtle


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On Mar 20, 11:04*am, "marcodbeast" wrote:
mrbawana2uwrote:
On Mar 20, 2:14 am, Roger Coppock wrote:
NASA: Environmental disaster avoided on ozone loss


By SETH BORENSTEIN


WASHINGTON (AP) — Here's rare good news about an environmental
crisis: We dodged disaster with the ozone layer. A NASA study about
ozone- munching chemicals from aerosol sprays and refrigeration used
a computer model to play a game of what-if. [garbage flushed]


"computer model to play a game of what-if"???


Professional wrestlers have more credibility than NASA.


* A completely insane lie. *lol


They both know the outcome before the show starts.
Unfortunately, tax payers can choose not to support the professional
wrestlers.
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On Mar 19, 10:14*pm, Roger Coppock wrote:
NASA: Environmental disaster avoided on ozone loss

By SETH BORENSTEIN

WASHINGTON (AP) — Here's rare good news about an environmental crisis:
We dodged disaster with the ozone layer. A NASA study about ozone-
munching chemicals from aerosol sprays and refrigeration used a
computer model to play a game of what-if. What if the world 22 years
ago didn't agree to cut back on chlorofluorocarbons which cause a
seasonal ozone hole to form near the South Pole?

NASA atmospheric scientist Paul Newman said the answer is a "bizarre
world."

By 2065, two-thirds of the protective ozone layer would have vanished
and "the ozone hole covers the Earth." And the CFCs, which are long-
lived potent greenhouse gases, would have pushed the world's
temperature up an extra 4 degrees.
[ . . . ]
"It is a real horrible place," Newman told The Associated Press.
But that dreadful scenario was "a world avoided," according to the
paper published this week in the journal Atmospheric Chemistry and
Physics.

After scientists raised warnings in the early 1970s — later earning a
Nobel Prize — 193 nations agreed in the1987 treaty called the Montreal
Protocol to cut CFC emissions. CFCs had been used in air conditioning,
aerosol sprays, foam packaging and other products.

Newman, the co-chair of the protocol's scientific panel, said the
study provides hope that the world can do the same thing on another
looming but even harder to solve environmental problem: Global
warming.

"There's a huge lesson to be learned here," said Paul Wapner, director
of Global Environmental Politics at American University. "In
significant cases, human beings can get together and arrive at
international or global principles and avoid ecological catastrophe."

On the Net:

NASA's ozone study:

http://www.nasa.gov/topics/earth/fea...d_avoided.html

The United Nations' ozone page:

http://ozone.unep.org/

The entire article is he

http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/...h9TB0qV69YNVYL...


thanks Roger....


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Default NASA: Environmental disaster avoided on ozone loss

Poor NASA. Desperately trying to hold onto funding and personnel at all
costs. Totally avoiding their MANDATE to explore SPACE in the hopes of
hooking up to the global warming gravytrain. Too bad their last global
warming satellite ended up in the ocean, still what's $650M when you can
just keep borrowing from China?



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