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NASA: Environmental disaster avoided on ozone loss

By SETH BORENSTEIN

WASHINGTON (AP) — Here's rare good news about an environmental crisis:
We dodged disaster with the ozone layer. A NASA study about ozone-
munching chemicals from aerosol sprays and refrigeration used a
computer model to play a game of what-if. What if the world 22 years
ago didn't agree to cut back on chlorofluorocarbons which cause a
seasonal ozone hole to form near the South Pole?

NASA atmospheric scientist Paul Newman said the answer is a "bizarre
world."

By 2065, two-thirds of the protective ozone layer would have vanished
and "the ozone hole covers the Earth." And the CFCs, which are long-
lived potent greenhouse gases, would have pushed the world's
temperature up an extra 4 degrees.
[ . . . ]
"It is a real horrible place," Newman told The Associated Press.
But that dreadful scenario was "a world avoided," according to the
paper published this week in the journal Atmospheric Chemistry and
Physics.

After scientists raised warnings in the early 1970s — later earning a
Nobel Prize — 193 nations agreed in the1987 treaty called the Montreal
Protocol to cut CFC emissions. CFCs had been used in air conditioning,
aerosol sprays, foam packaging and other products.

Newman, the co-chair of the protocol's scientific panel, said the
study provides hope that the world can do the same thing on another
looming but even harder to solve environmental problem: Global
warming.

"There's a huge lesson to be learned here," said Paul Wapner, director
of Global Environmental Politics at American University. "In
significant cases, human beings can get together and arrive at
international or global principles and avoid ecological catastrophe."

On the Net:

NASA's ozone study:

http://www.nasa.gov/topics/earth/fea...d_avoided.html

The United Nations' ozone page:

http://ozone.unep.org/

The entire article is he

http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/...TuUxQD971B8U02
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Default NASA: Environmental disaster avoided on ozone loss

On Mar 20, 1:14*am, Roger Coppock wrote:
NASA: Environmental disaster avoided on ozone loss

By SETH BORENSTEIN

WASHINGTON (AP) — Here's rare good news about an environmental crisis:
We dodged disaster with the ozone layer. A NASA study about ozone-
munching chemicals from aerosol sprays and refrigeration used a
computer model to play a game of what-if. What if the world 22 years
ago didn't agree to cut back on chlorofluorocarbons which cause a
seasonal ozone hole to form near the South Pole?

NASA atmospheric scientist Paul Newman said the answer is a "bizarre
world."

By 2065, two-thirds of the protective ozone layer would have vanished
and "the ozone hole covers the Earth." And the CFCs, which are long-
lived potent greenhouse gases, would have pushed the world's
temperature up an extra 4 degrees.
[ . . . ]
"It is a real horrible place," Newman told The Associated Press.
But that dreadful scenario was "a world avoided," according to the
paper published this week in the journal Atmospheric Chemistry and
Physics.

After scientists raised warnings in the early 1970s — later earning a
Nobel Prize — 193 nations agreed in the1987 treaty called the Montreal
Protocol to cut CFC emissions. CFCs had been used in air conditioning,
aerosol sprays, foam packaging and other products.

Newman, the co-chair of the protocol's scientific panel, said the
study provides hope that the world can do the same thing on another
looming but even harder to solve environmental problem: Global
warming.

"There's a huge lesson to be learned here," said Paul Wapner, director
of Global Environmental Politics at American University. "In
significant cases, human beings can get together and arrive at
international or global principles and avoid ecological catastrophe."

On the Net:

NASA's ozone study:

http://www.nasa.gov/topics/earth/fea...d_avoided.html

The United Nations' ozone page:

http://ozone.unep.org/

The entire article is he

http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/...h9TB0qV69YNVYL...


No kidding. Computer models prove that? Amazing. Considering that
they've been clearly shown to be unable to predict anything useful in
terms of the climate. But they can be used to confirm the horrors of
ozone on the world. Dr Susan Solomon ought to be propud of her work on
behalf of the anti-ozone movement and now on behalf of the IPCC.

Just more garbage-in garbage-out Mannian manipulation of data and
algorithems to fake some modicum of credibility. It has failed as
usual.

Some people just have no professional pride. That they would actually
go thru that kind of charade and actually put their signatures on it.
Shame.
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wrote:
On Mar 20, 1:14 am, Roger Coppock wrote:
NASA: Environmental disaster avoided on ozone loss

By SETH BORENSTEIN

WASHINGTON (AP) — Here's rare good news about an environmental
crisis: We dodged disaster with the ozone layer. A NASA study about
ozone- munching chemicals from aerosol sprays and refrigeration used
a computer model to play a game of what-if. What if the world 22
years ago didn't agree to cut back on chlorofluorocarbons which
cause a seasonal ozone hole to form near the South Pole?

NASA atmospheric scientist Paul Newman said the answer is a "bizarre
world."

By 2065, two-thirds of the protective ozone layer would have vanished
and "the ozone hole covers the Earth." And the CFCs, which are long-
lived potent greenhouse gases, would have pushed the world's
temperature up an extra 4 degrees.
[ . . . ]
"It is a real horrible place," Newman told The Associated Press.
But that dreadful scenario was "a world avoided," according to the
paper published this week in the journal Atmospheric Chemistry and
Physics.

After scientists raised warnings in the early 1970s — later earning a
Nobel Prize — 193 nations agreed in the1987 treaty called the
Montreal Protocol to cut CFC emissions. CFCs had been used in air
conditioning, aerosol sprays, foam packaging and other products.

Newman, the co-chair of the protocol's scientific panel, said the
study provides hope that the world can do the same thing on another
looming but even harder to solve environmental problem: Global
warming.

"There's a huge lesson to be learned here," said Paul Wapner,
director of Global Environmental Politics at American University. "In
significant cases, human beings can get together and arrive at
international or global principles and avoid ecological catastrophe."

On the Net:

NASA's ozone study:

http://www.nasa.gov/topics/earth/fea...d_avoided.html

The United Nations' ozone page:

http://ozone.unep.org/

The entire article is he

http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/...h9TB0qV69YNVYL...


No kidding. Computer models prove that? Amazing. Considering that
they've been clearly shown to be unable to predict anything useful in
terms of the climate.


A completely insane lie. lol

But they can be used to confirm the horrors of
ozone on the world. Dr Susan Solomon ought to be propud of her work on
behalf of the anti-ozone movement and now on behalf of the IPCC.

Just more garbage-in garbage-out Mannian manipulation of data and
algorithems to fake some modicum of credibility. It has failed as
usual.


A completely insane lie. lol


Some people just have no professional pride. That they would actually
go thru that kind of charade and actually put their signatures on it.
Shame.


A completely insane lie. lol



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On Mar 20, 9:39*am, "marcodbeast" wrote:
wrote:
On Mar 20, 1:14 am, Roger Coppock wrote:
NASA: Environmental disaster avoided on ozone loss


By SETH BORENSTEIN


WASHINGTON (AP) — Here's rare good news about an environmental
crisis: We dodged disaster with the ozone layer. A NASA study about
ozone- munching chemicals from aerosol sprays and refrigeration used
a computer model to play a game of what-if. What if the world 22
years ago didn't agree to cut back on chlorofluorocarbons which
cause a seasonal ozone hole to form near the South Pole?


NASA atmospheric scientist Paul Newman said the answer is a "bizarre
world."


By 2065, two-thirds of the protective ozone layer would have vanished
and "the ozone hole covers the Earth." And the CFCs, which are long-
lived potent greenhouse gases, would have pushed the world's
temperature up an extra 4 degrees.
[ . . . ]
"It is a real horrible place," Newman told The Associated Press.
But that dreadful scenario was "a world avoided," according to the
paper published this week in the journal Atmospheric Chemistry and
Physics.


After scientists raised warnings in the early 1970s — later earning a
Nobel Prize — 193 nations agreed in the1987 treaty called the
Montreal Protocol to cut CFC emissions. CFCs had been used in air
conditioning, aerosol sprays, foam packaging and other products.


Newman, the co-chair of the protocol's scientific panel, said the
study provides hope that the world can do the same thing on another
looming but even harder to solve environmental problem: Global
warming.


"There's a huge lesson to be learned here," said Paul Wapner,
director of Global Environmental Politics at American University. "In
significant cases, human beings can get together and arrive at
international or global principles and avoid ecological catastrophe."


On the Net:


NASA's ozone study:


http://www.nasa.gov/topics/earth/fea...d_avoided.html


The United Nations' ozone page:


http://ozone.unep.org/


The entire article is he


http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/...h9TB0qV69YNVYL....


No kidding. Computer models prove that? Amazing. Considering that
they've been clearly shown to be unable to predict anything useful in
terms of the climate.


* A completely insane lie. *lol

*But they can be used to confirm the horrors of

ozone on the world. Dr Susan Solomon ought to be propud of her work on
behalf of the anti-ozone movement and now on behalf of the IPCC.


Just more garbage-in garbage-out Mannian manipulation of data and
algorithems to fake some modicum of credibility. It has failed as
usual.


* A completely insane lie. *lol



Some people just have no professional pride. That they would actually
go thru that kind of charade and actually put their signatures on it.
Shame.


* A completely insane lie. *lol- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


nice trolling.... moron.

You make us look like geniuses by comparison, keep up the good work.
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Default NASA: Environmental disaster avoided on ozone loss

wrote:
On Mar 20, 9:39 am, "marcodbeast" wrote:
wrote:
On Mar 20, 1:14 am, Roger Coppock wrote:
NASA: Environmental disaster avoided on ozone loss


By SETH BORENSTEIN


WASHINGTON (AP) — Here's rare good news about an environmental
crisis: We dodged disaster with the ozone layer. A NASA study about
ozone- munching chemicals from aerosol sprays and refrigeration
used a computer model to play a game of what-if. What if the world
22 years ago didn't agree to cut back on chlorofluorocarbons which
cause a seasonal ozone hole to form near the South Pole?


NASA atmospheric scientist Paul Newman said the answer is a
"bizarre world."


By 2065, two-thirds of the protective ozone layer would have
vanished and "the ozone hole covers the Earth." And the CFCs,
which are long- lived potent greenhouse gases, would have pushed
the world's temperature up an extra 4 degrees.
[ . . . ]
"It is a real horrible place," Newman told The Associated Press.
But that dreadful scenario was "a world avoided," according to the
paper published this week in the journal Atmospheric Chemistry and
Physics.


After scientists raised warnings in the early 1970s — later
earning a Nobel Prize — 193 nations agreed in the1987 treaty
called the Montreal Protocol to cut CFC emissions. CFCs had been
used in air conditioning, aerosol sprays, foam packaging and other
products.


Newman, the co-chair of the protocol's scientific panel, said the
study provides hope that the world can do the same thing on another
looming but even harder to solve environmental problem: Global
warming.


"There's a huge lesson to be learned here," said Paul Wapner,
director of Global Environmental Politics at American University.
"In significant cases, human beings can get together and arrive at
international or global principles and avoid ecological
catastrophe."


On the Net:


NASA's ozone study:


http://www.nasa.gov/topics/earth/fea...d_avoided.html

The United Nations' ozone page:


http://ozone.unep.org/


The entire article is he


http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/...h9TB0qV69YNVYL...


No kidding. Computer models prove that? Amazing. Considering that
they've been clearly shown to be unable to predict anything useful
in terms of the climate.


A completely insane lie. lol

But they can be used to confirm the horrors of

ozone on the world. Dr Susan Solomon ought to be propud of her work
on behalf of the anti-ozone movement and now on behalf of the IPCC.


Just more garbage-in garbage-out Mannian manipulation of data and
algorithems to fake some modicum of credibility. It has failed as
usual.


A completely insane lie. lol



Some people just have no professional pride. That they would
actually go thru that kind of charade and actually put their
signatures on it. Shame.


A completely insane lie. lol- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


nice trolling.... moron.

You make us look like geniuses by comparison, keep up the good work.


Denialist for "I cannot refute a thing you said."




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On Mar 20, 11:16*am, "marcodbeast" wrote:
wrote:
On Mar 20, 9:39 am, "marcodbeast" wrote:
wrote:
On Mar 20, 1:14 am, Roger Coppock wrote:
NASA: Environmental disaster avoided on ozone loss


By SETH BORENSTEIN


WASHINGTON (AP) — Here's rare good news about an environmental
crisis: We dodged disaster with the ozone layer. A NASA study about
ozone- munching chemicals from aerosol sprays and refrigeration
used a computer model to play a game of what-if. What if the world
22 years ago didn't agree to cut back on chlorofluorocarbons which
cause a seasonal ozone hole to form near the South Pole?


NASA atmospheric scientist Paul Newman said the answer is a
"bizarre world."


By 2065, two-thirds of the protective ozone layer would have
vanished and "the ozone hole covers the Earth." And the CFCs,
which are long- lived potent greenhouse gases, would have pushed
the world's temperature up an extra 4 degrees.
[ . . . ]
"It is a real horrible place," Newman told The Associated Press.
But that dreadful scenario was "a world avoided," according to the
paper published this week in the journal Atmospheric Chemistry and
Physics.


After scientists raised warnings in the early 1970s — later
earning a Nobel Prize — 193 nations agreed in the1987 treaty
called the Montreal Protocol to cut CFC emissions. CFCs had been
used in air conditioning, aerosol sprays, foam packaging and other
products.


Newman, the co-chair of the protocol's scientific panel, said the
study provides hope that the world can do the same thing on another
looming but even harder to solve environmental problem: Global
warming.


"There's a huge lesson to be learned here," said Paul Wapner,
director of Global Environmental Politics at American University.
"In significant cases, human beings can get together and arrive at
international or global principles and avoid ecological
catastrophe."


On the Net:


NASA's ozone study:


http://www.nasa.gov/topics/earth/fea...d_avoided.html


The United Nations' ozone page:


http://ozone.unep.org/


The entire article is he


http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/...h9TB0qV69YNVYL....


No kidding. Computer models prove that? Amazing. Considering that
they've been clearly shown to be unable to predict anything useful
in terms of the climate.


A completely insane lie. lol


But they can be used to confirm the horrors of


ozone on the world. Dr Susan Solomon ought to be propud of her work
on behalf of the anti-ozone movement and now on behalf of the IPCC.


Just more garbage-in garbage-out Mannian manipulation of data and
algorithems to fake some modicum of credibility. It has failed as
usual.


A completely insane lie. lol


Some people just have no professional pride. That they would
actually go thru that kind of charade and actually put their
signatures on it. Shame.


A completely insane lie. lol- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


nice trolling.... moron.


You make us look like geniuses by comparison, keep up the good work.


* Denialist for "I cannot refute a thing you said."- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


.... says the troll that has never posted anything of substance but
continual false accusations of lying....

moron....another post that shows the stark contrast between the
activist rantings of idiotic agwers and the steady strong reason of us
non-alarmists. You make us look like geniuses by contrast.
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"Roger Coppock" wrote in message
...
NASA: Environmental disaster avoided on ozone loss

By SETH BORENSTEIN

WASHINGTON (AP) — Here's rare good news about an environmental crisis:
We dodged disaster with the ozone layer. A NASA study about ozone-
munching chemicals from aerosol sprays and refrigeration used a
computer model to play a game of what-if. What if the world 22 years
ago didn't agree to cut back on chlorofluorocarbons which cause a
seasonal ozone hole to form near the South Pole?

---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Uh huh!!! Did anyone notice that this ozone hole crisis, DuPont's patent on
it's (Prestone) antifreeze ran out, and DuPont just coincidentally had an
acceptable substitute ready for market at just about the same time??? At
least, unlike the ban on DDT, this one didn't kill millions of people!


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Birdog wrote:
"Roger Coppock" wrote in message
...
NASA: Environmental disaster avoided on ozone loss

By SETH BORENSTEIN

WASHINGTON (AP) - Here's rare good news about an environmental crisis:
We dodged disaster with the ozone layer. A NASA study about ozone-
munching chemicals from aerosol sprays and refrigeration used a
computer model to play a game of what-if. What if the world 22 years
ago didn't agree to cut back on chlorofluorocarbons which cause a
seasonal ozone hole to form near the South Pole?

---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Uh huh!!! Did anyone notice that this ozone hole crisis, DuPont's
patent on it's (Prestone) antifreeze ran out, and DuPont just
coincidentally had an acceptable substitute ready for market at just
about the same time???


Relevance? lol


At least, unlike the ban on DDT, this one
didn't kill millions of people!


The "ban on DDT" didn't kill millions of people, sad sick serial liar.
DDT was never banned for disease control.



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On Mar 20, 7:36*am, "Birdog" wrote:
"Roger Coppock" wrote in message

...
NASA: Environmental disaster avoided on ozone loss

By SETH BORENSTEIN

WASHINGTON (AP) — Here's rare good news about an environmental crisis:
We dodged disaster with the ozone layer. A NASA study about ozone-
munching chemicals from aerosol sprays and refrigeration used a
computer model to play a game of what-if. What if the world 22 years
ago didn't agree to cut back on chlorofluorocarbons which cause a
seasonal ozone hole to form near the South Pole?

---------------------------------------------------------------------------*---------------------------------------------------------------------------*---

Uh huh!!! Did anyone notice that this ozone hole crisis, DuPont's patent on
it's (Prestone) antifreeze ran out, and DuPont just coincidentally had an
acceptable substitute ready for market at just about the same time??? At
least, unlike the ban on DDT, this one didn't kill millions of people!


"Uh huh!!! Did anyone notice that this ozone hole crisis, DuPont's
patent on
it's (Prestone) antifreeze ran out, and DuPont just coincidentally had
an
acceptable substitute ready for market at just about the same time???
At
least, unlike the ban on DDT, this one didn't kill millions of people!
"

Yo DICKHEAD That piece of rubbish you just posted is absolute garbage
per non other than the Drudge report. Take your political POV and
stick it
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On Mar 20, 2:14*am, Roger Coppock wrote:
NASA: Environmental disaster avoided on ozone loss

By SETH BORENSTEIN

WASHINGTON (AP) — Here's rare good news about an environmental crisis:
We dodged disaster with the ozone layer. A NASA study about ozone-
munching chemicals from aerosol sprays and refrigeration used a
computer model to play a game of what-if. [garbage flushed]


"computer model to play a game of what-if"???

Professional wrestlers have more credibility than NASA.


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