On Mar 24, 5:19 pm, "ooznb" wrote:
"Mr Right" wrote in message

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On Mar 24, 5:36 pm, Fran wrote:





On Mar 24, 3:17 pm, Enough Already wrote:

On Mar 23, 8:11 pm, "ooznb" wrote:

If our Human Achievement Hour is at all a dig against Earth Hour, it is so only by
the
fact that we are pointing out what Earth Hour truly is about:

It isn't pro-Earth, it is anti-man and anti-innovation.

In that case, pro-man and pro-innovation is ANTI-conservation. Speak
for yourself when espousing that growth-addict value system. There is
no "innovation" in continual growth of gluttony. Efficiency is the
real innovation, not mindless consumption.

Admit that you're just another punk who's all about greed and
gluttony. Your kind is nothing new in an historical context. Your
excesses inspired the very environmental movement you despise. If you
ever visit national parks or other wild preserves, give your hypocrisy
just a moment's thought.

E.A.

http://enough_already.tripod.com/

Where we are teaching, we have been giving out information on the
contribution each of us can make to a more sustainable planet and
encouraging the kids to come up with three ways that their household
can save electricity, gas, fuel and water. We have talked about
shorter showers, using only 4-5 inches of water in the bath, switching
off lights in rooms where nobody needs them, turning off appliances
that are not being used at the wall, consolidating car trips, walking
where feasible and so forth. It has been a theme for the last month
and the best ideas or examples get to talk about them on assembly and
have a presentation. There have also been prizes for the best posters.

Two of the interesting but unexpected consequences have been a decline
in litter and graffiti around the school and car traffic at the school
gates. Apparently some kids are able to walk to and from school
themselves or take the bus and this has meant an improvement in safety
in the mornings and less congestion outside on the main road.

Fran

Fran, the things that you talk about in this post sound great (and you
didn't mention AGW once).

I would support them all, as long as they were not linked to AGW.
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Absolutely, doing the right things for the wrong reasons!!
Although I'm not sure about only "4-5 inches of water in the bath" or "shorter showers"
though.
BTW, what has "4-5 inches of water in the bath" or "shorter showers" to do with global
warming anyway?

Very little -- the issue was "sustainability". That noted, bathwater
does have to be heated and of course water has to be pumped, both to
and from homes. The power for that comes from somewhere.

Also, certain appliances, such as video recorders and electronic clocks should not be
turned off at the wall.


Most have batteries that keep the time these days -- just like
computers.

Fran

On Mar 24, 5:18*am, Fran wrote:
On Mar 24, 5:19 pm, "ooznb" wrote:



"Mr Right" wrote in message

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On Mar 24, 5:36 pm, Fran wrote:

On Mar 24, 3:17 pm, Enough Already wrote:

On Mar 23, 8:11 pm, "ooznb" wrote:

If our Human Achievement Hour is at all a dig against Earth Hour, it is so only by
the
fact that we are pointing out what Earth Hour truly is about:

It isn't pro-Earth, it is anti-man and anti-innovation.

In that case, pro-man and pro-innovation is ANTI-conservation. Speak
for yourself when espousing that growth-addict value system. There is
no "innovation" in continual growth of gluttony. Efficiency is the
real innovation, not mindless consumption.

Admit that you're just another punk who's all about greed and
gluttony. Your kind is nothing new in an historical context. Your
excesses inspired the very environmental movement you despise. If you
ever visit national parks or other wild preserves, give your hypocrisy
just a moment's thought.

E.A.

http://enough_already.tripod.com/

Where we are teaching, we have been giving out information on the
contribution each of us can make to a more sustainable planet and
encouraging the kids to come up with three ways that their household
can save electricity, gas, fuel and water. We have talked about
shorter showers, using only 4-5 inches of water in the bath, switching
off lights in rooms where nobody needs them, turning off appliances
that are not being used at the wall, consolidating car trips, walking
where feasible and so forth. It has been a theme for the last month
and the best ideas or examples get to talk about them on assembly and
have a presentation. There have also been prizes for the best posters..

Two of the interesting but unexpected consequences have been a decline
in litter and graffiti around the school and car traffic at the school
gates. Apparently some kids are able to walk to and from school
themselves or take the bus and this has meant an improvement in safety
in the mornings and less congestion outside on the main road.

Fran

Fran, the things that you talk about in this post sound great (and you
didn't mention AGW once).

I would support them all, as long as they were not linked to AGW.
************************************************** ***********************

Absolutely, doing the right things for the wrong reasons!!
Although I'm not sure about only "4-5 inches of water in the bath" or "shorter showers"
though.
BTW, what has "4-5 inches of water in the bath" or "shorter showers" to do with global
warming anyway?

Very little -- the issue was "sustainability". That noted, bathwater
does have to be heated and of course water has to be pumped, both to
and from homes. The power for that comes from somewhere.

Also, certain appliances, such as video recorders and electronic clocks should not be
turned off at the wall.

Most have batteries that keep the time these days -- just like
computers.

Fran

Even if they didn't, how difficult is it to reset a clock? Not very in
my household!

Take an hour, use less resources. It won't kill you.