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On Mar 24, 4:57*am, Roger Coppock wrote:
Please see: http://www.jaxa.jp/projects/sat/gosat/index_e.html Too bad our OCO was foiled. Guess that our Big Energy cartels and cabals get to keep systematically polluting and otherwise losing our helium as per usual. It’s like this massive artificial tonnage release of helium per year along with our failing geomagnetic force is no big deal, so instead lets all focus on CO2 that’s too heavy to be going anywhere. Perhaps it’s a good thing that fossil derived energy and its unavoidable consequences is not necessary on Venus. However, our unusually wet and icy Eden has become highly dependent or rather addicted to the stuff regardless of the mostly negative and/or acidic consequences of wet CO2 and wet NOx within our lower atmosphere and surface environment, whereas the thinning of our protective upper dry atmosphere is given loads of extra H2 and He. One fairly obvious secondary source of helium (to that from natural gas) that’s artificially released, is via the whole petrochemical thing that’s creating essentially a one-way helium ticket to ride. On a global basis, it seems we dispose of and/or they consume and otherwise burn off nearly as much natural gas than regular end-use energy consumers actually use, and as such it is unavoidably polluting high and low in more invisible ways than most of us would care to know. Helium from extracting and processing crude oil (aka flare gas burnoff or just raw venting of crude methane): If on average we used a conservative 500% per volume of oil as methane vapor we’d be close enough (it’s actually much worse, 30 m3/ m3), and using 1% of that methane as helium certainly wouldn’t be unheard of. Thus I’ll suggest 5% per given volume of extracted oil is helium. The all-inclusive global oil production (including spillage and wastage) as of 2009-2010 is roughly 86.4e6 barrels/day = 3.15e10 barrels/yr (5e9 m3/yr), and if anything it’s actually somewhat greater because the industry itself takes at least 10% of its own product in order to function (an EROEI ratio of 4:1 or 25% is perhaps more typical, and it gets much worse yet for oily sand whereas the NEG0, as well as especially cost ineffective whenever the global spot market for crude oil drops below $45/barrel, not to mention synfuel from coal), so for this analogy effort we can safely take this volumetric extraction of oil accounting to at least 5.5e9 m3/year. 5.5e9 x .05 = 2.75e8 m3 helium/yr 2.75e8 x .178 = 4.895e7 kg = 48,950 tonnes/yr as helium. I believe that’s taking just about all the natural production of Earth’s helium/year, if not exceeding the internal makings via radioactive decay, and remember this artificial helium release is just from our oil extraction process, including the oil industry consumption of its raw natural gas that simply does not consume the element of helium. In some instances the surplus of this raw natural gas is for the moment getting pumped back into the ground, through requiring considerable process energy in of itself. Oil extraction and process data w/o obfuscation is next to impossible to come by, therefore you can bet your bottom dollar that it’s actually much worse off than we can imagine, and the failed or perhaps foiled OCO mission would have easily quantified such data independently, with sufficient resolution as to pinpoint each and every natural and artificial source of released and/or consumed gas. Give or take e few numbers here and there, as to the all-inclusive oil extraction and processing that often utilizes other commercial sources of natural gas, could easily push their volumetric release of helium upwards of 100,000 tonnes per year, not to mention whatever mother nature releases, or the volumetric worth of our global natural gas industries that do nothing but extract and distribute their methane laced with the element of helium that only goes up up and away. Even though we can’t see it, smell it or touch it, it’s still the one of a kind mass that’s primarily derived from within Earth, and lo and behold its forever going away from us. Remember, this report is just focused upon what’s conservatively related to crude oil extraction, and not of our natural gas which is unavoidably laced with helium, and there’s other sources including coal, multiple other mining operations and deep water extraction that’s also continually adding to mother nature’s flatulence. Basically Eden/Earth has been hemorrhaging its precious helium, that for the most part doesn’t recombine with anything. ~ Brad Guth Brad_Guth Brad.Guth BradGuth BG / “Guth Usenet” |
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![]() "Roger Coppock" wrote in message ... Please see: http://www.jaxa.jp/projects/sat/gosat/index_e.html Too bad it's the sun and not evil CO2, eh komrade? NASA Plot Of Earth's Albedo Correlates Strongly With Global Temperature This establishes a solar link via cosmic ray variations modulating earth's cloud cover. 23 Jun 2007 Look at the plot of earth's albedo in figure 4 at the following link . http://bbso.njit.edu/Research/EarthS...2007_JASTP.pdf The following can be observed 1.. Albedo decreased from 1985 and reached a minimum in 1998 (the hottest year) This is consistent with the global warming trend over the same period. 2.. Albedo has been increasing since 1998, and this is consistent with the ten year global cooling trend we are currently undergoing. 3.. This appears to be a complete explanation for our climatic varaitions over the last 40 years. 4.. This strongly suggests a solar link to global climate via cosmic ray variations which modulate earth's cloud cover.. 5.. There is no need for spurious explanations such as CO2. Warmest Regards Bonzo |
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On Mar 24, 4:34*pm, "ooznb" wrote:
"Roger Coppock" wrote in message ... Please see: http://www.jaxa.jp/projects/sat/gosat/index_e.html Too bad it's the sun and not evil CO2, eh komrade? NASA Plot Of Earth's Albedo Correlates Strongly With Global Temperature This establishes a solar link via cosmic ray variations modulating earth's cloud cover. 23 Jun 2007 Look at the plot of earth's albedo in figure 4 at the following link . http://bbso.njit.edu/Research/EarthS...de_Palle_2007_... The following can be observed * 1.. Albedo decreased from 1985 and reached a minimum in 1998 (the hottest year) This is consistent with the global warming trend over the same period. * 2.. Albedo has been increasing since 1998, and this is consistent with the ten year global cooling trend we are currently undergoing. * 3.. This appears to be a complete explanation for our climatic varaitions over the last 40 years. * 4.. This strongly suggests a solar link to global climate via cosmic ray variations which modulate earth's cloud cover.. * 5.. There is no need for spurious explanations such as CO2. Warmest Regards Bonzo There is no measurable global cooling, as opposed to a measured degree of global warming that's entirely objective. However, CO2 is for the most part just a darn good indicator, at least more so than a cause. Dirty or sooty CO2 is however a global albedo dimming agent, though so is dirty/sooty h2o. We are making our lower atmosphere measurable dirty/sooty. The OCO mission would have been our best science yet. Big Energy made certain it failed. ~ BG |
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ooznb wrote:
"Roger Coppock" wrote in message ... Please see: http://www.jaxa.jp/projects/sat/gosat/index_e.html Too bad it's the sun and not evil CO2, eh komrade? NASA Plot Of Earth's Albedo Correlates Strongly With Global Temperature This establishes a solar link via cosmic ray variations modulating earth's cloud cover. A completely insane lie. |
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On Mar 25, 6:33*am, "marcodbeast" wrote:
ooznb wrote: "Roger Coppock" wrote in message .... Please see: http://www.jaxa.jp/projects/sat/gosat/index_e.html Too bad it's the sun and not evil CO2, eh komrade? NASA Plot Of Earth's Albedo Correlates Strongly With Global Temperature This establishes a solar link via cosmic ray variations modulating earth's cloud cover. * A completely insane lie. True, as cloud cover has to do with the saturation of h2o that's increasing because the average surface and ocean temps have been increasing, not to mention the millions of gallons per ray getting artificially vaporized, and of course volcanic contributions by no small measure. ~ BG |
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