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ooznb wrote:
This establishes a solar link via cosmic ray variations modulating earth's cloud cover. 23 Jun 2007 Look at the plot of earth's albedo in figure 4 at the following link . http://bbso.njit.edu/Research/EarthS...2007_JASTP.pdf (Irrelevant x-posts deleted) What the paper studies is the variation of the albedo, which obviously (even for denialists) has an impact on the amount of solar energy reaching the earth's surface- in fact, the same impact as the normalized GHG content, see equation (1) in the paper. The possibility of a large change in albedo caused by icecap melting is one good reason why GW is of concern. The reduction in albedo could trigger a positive feedback. Although the paper explores the possibility of a link between solar activity and the albedo, it does not actually say in the conclusion that this is the case: "Thus, a possible Sun–albedo link, would have the potential to produce large climate effects without the need for significant excursions in solar irradi- ance. These could provide an explanation for the apparently large climate response to apparently small solar changes, as well as how the 11/22 year solar cycle is imprinted on Earth." So - why should the possibility of a cyclic variation in the albedo driven by the sun, which presumably has existed for eternities, be more important in your opinion than the 40% increase in atmospheric CO2 due to human activity? The following can be observed 1.. Albedo decreased from 1985 and reached a minimum in 1998 (the hottest year) This is consistent with the global warming trend over the same period. 2.. Albedo has been increasing since 1998, and this is consistent with the ten year global cooling trend we are currently undergoing. 3.. This appears to be a complete explanation for our climatic varaitions over the last 40 years. 4.. This strongly suggests a solar link to global climate via cosmic ray variations which modulate earth's cloud cover.. 5.. There is no need for spurious explanations such as CO2. Warmest Regards Bonzo |
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On Mar 24, 9:29*am, Tom P wrote:
So - why should the possibility of a cyclic variation in the albedo driven by the sun, which presumably has existed for eternities, be more important in your opinion than the 40% increase in atmospheric CO2 due to human activity? ••*When 1- you provide proof of the increase in atmospheric CO2 was_due_ to_human_activity; 2- you provide proof that CO2 causes global warming 3- when you provide proof that you are not an horses ass Then I will tell you why the sun is the sole driver of Earth's climate. (With a bit of help from cosmic rays) - - The evidence from Mars destroys the notion that humans are responsible for warming Earth. Mars has global warming, but without a greenhouse and without the participation of Martians. Dr Habibullo Abdussamatov marsprogram.jpl.nasa.gov/odyssey/newsroom/pressreleases/20031208a.html |
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