sci.geo.meteorology (Meteorology) (sci.geo.meteorology) For the discussion of meteorology and related topics.

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
  #1   Report Post  
Old April 7th 09, 12:11 AM posted to alt.global-warming,sci.environment,sci.geo.meteorology
external usenet poster
 
First recorded activity by Weather-Banter: May 2005
Posts: 1,360
Default Latest Satellite Data Show A Warming Global Climate

Latest Satellite Data Show A Warming Global Climate

The satellite record, in all its current interpretations,
shows that the air near the surface is warming.
For background on the satellite temperature proxy please see:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Satelli...e_measurements

The URL below is one of the more conservative records
from the University of Alabama at Huntsville.

http://vortex.nsstc.uah.edu/public/m.../tltglhmam_5.2

The global data given above are graphed he

http://members.cox.net/rcoppock/UAH-MSU.jpg

The regression statistics for the line in the graph above
are below.

Coefficients:
Estimate Std. Error t value Pr(|t|)
(Intercept) -25.39055 2.13541 -11.9 2e-16
YEARMON 0.01277 0.00107 11.9 7.27e-28
---

Residual standard error: 0.179 on 362 degrees of freedom
Multiple R-Squared: 0.282
F-statistic: 142 on 1 and 362 DF, p-value: 7.27e-28

  #2   Report Post  
Old April 7th 09, 02:05 AM posted to alt.global-warming,sci.environment,sci.geo.meteorology
external usenet poster
 
First recorded activity by Weather-Banter: Apr 2009
Posts: 32
Default Latest Satellite Data Show A Warming Global Climate


"Roger Coppock" wrote in message
...
Latest Satellite Data Show A Warming Global Climate

The satellite record, in all its current interpretations,
shows that the air near the surface is warming.
For background on the satellite temperature proxy please see:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Satelli...e_measurements

The URL below is one of the more conservative records
from the University of Alabama at Huntsville.

http://vortex.nsstc.uah.edu/public/m.../tltglhmam_5.2

The global data given above are graphed he

http://members.cox.net/rcoppock/UAH-MSU.jpg

The regression statistics for the line in the graph above
are below.

Coefficients:
Estimate Std. Error t value Pr(|t|)
(Intercept) -25.39055 2.13541 -11.9 2e-16
YEARMON 0.01277 0.00107 11.9 7.27e-28
---

Residual standard error: 0.179 on 362 degrees of freedom
Multiple R-Squared: 0.282
F-statistic: 142 on 1 and 362 DF, p-value: 7.27e-28


Yes I got the same result 0.0128 deg C warming per year for the full global
data set since 1988. However if you do the same analysis for 1998 through
the present you get a cooling trend of 0.0044 deg C per year - going on for
the last 10 years. This is 10 years when we've seen the greatest CO2
emissions and should be seeing a dramatic acceleration of warming according
to the AGW alarmists - instead we see a cooling trend.

Also doesn't it bother you that the data is essentially flat for the
southern hemisphere and tropics while it's the northern hemisphere that
shows all the warming since 1988? This does not square with the theory of
CO2 driven AGW either. It suggests to me a serious bias in the data,
perhaps due to the far greater number of population centers in the northern
hemisphere - maybe their increasing heat signature.

I tend to be a believer in a gradual warming trend but this data makes me
wonder.








  #3   Report Post  
Old April 7th 09, 02:31 AM posted to alt.global-warming,sci.environment,sci.geo.meteorology
external usenet poster
 
First recorded activity by Weather-Banter: May 2005
Posts: 1,360
Default Latest Satellite Data Show A Warming Global Climate

On Apr 6, 6:05*pm, "BobLl" wrote:
"Roger Coppock" wrote in message
...
Latest Satellite Data Show A Warming Global Climate


The satellite record, in all its current interpretations,
shows that the air near the surface is warming.
For background on the satellite temperature proxy please see:


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Satelli...e_measurements


The URL below is one of the more conservative records
from the University of Alabama at Huntsville.


http://vortex.nsstc.uah.edu/public/m.../tltglhmam_5.2


The global data given above are graphed he


http://members.cox.net/rcoppock/UAH-MSU.jpg


The regression statistics for the line in the graph above
are below.


Coefficients:
* * * * * * Estimate Std. Error t value Pr(|t|)
(Intercept) -25.39055 * *2.13541 * -11.9 * 2e-16
YEARMON * * * 0.01277 * *0.00107 * *11.9 * 7.27e-28
---


Residual standard error: 0.179 on 362 degrees of freedom
Multiple R-Squared: 0.282
F-statistic: *142 on 1 and 362 DF, *p-value: *7.27e-28


Yes I got the same result *0.0128 deg C warming per year for the full global
data set since 1988. * However if you do the same analysis for 1998 through
the present you get a cooling trend of 0.0044 deg C per year - going on for
the last 10 years.


Yes, we all know that there was a warm spike a decade
ago. Fossil fool love to cherry pick data to place
that spike at the start of their biased interval.

Now be a good first year statistics student and compute
R squared a p-value for your cherry pie. A R-squared
of 0 and p-value of 0.359 is not significant. These
data do not support your statement about a cooling trend
over the last 10 years.

Coefficients:
Estimate Std. Error t value Pr(|t|)
(Intercept) 9.09247 9.62200 0.94 0.35
YEARMON[K:length(YEARMON)] -0.00442 0.00480 -0.92 0.36

Residual standard error: 0.181 on 133 degrees of freedom
Multiple R-Squared: 0.00634, Adjusted R-squared: -0.00113
F-statistic: 0.849 on 1 and 133 DF, p-value: 0.359
  #4   Report Post  
Old April 7th 09, 04:31 AM posted to alt.global-warming,sci.environment,sci.geo.meteorology
external usenet poster
 
First recorded activity by Weather-Banter: Apr 2009
Posts: 32
Default Latest Satellite Data Show A Warming Global Climate


"Roger Coppock" wrote in message
...
On Apr 6, 6:05 pm, "BobLl" wrote:
"Roger Coppock" wrote in message
...
Latest Satellite Data Show A Warming Global Climate


The satellite record, in all its current interpretations,
shows that the air near the surface is warming.
For background on the satellite temperature proxy please see:


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Satelli...e_measurements


The URL below is one of the more conservative records
from the University of Alabama at Huntsville.


http://vortex.nsstc.uah.edu/public/m.../tltglhmam_5.2


The global data given above are graphed he


http://members.cox.net/rcoppock/UAH-MSU.jpg


The regression statistics for the line in the graph above
are below.


Coefficients:
Estimate Std. Error t value Pr(|t|)
(Intercept) -25.39055 2.13541 -11.9 2e-16
YEARMON 0.01277 0.00107 11.9 7.27e-28
---


Residual standard error: 0.179 on 362 degrees of freedom
Multiple R-Squared: 0.282
F-statistic: 142 on 1 and 362 DF, p-value: 7.27e-28


Yes I got the same result 0.0128 deg C warming per year for the full
global
data set since 1988. However if you do the same analysis for 1998 through
the present you get a cooling trend of 0.0044 deg C per year - going on
for
the last 10 years.


Yes, we all know that there was a warm spike a decade
ago. Fossil fool love to cherry pick data to place
that spike at the start of their biased interval.

Now be a good first year statistics student and compute
R squared a p-value for your cherry pie. A R-squared
of 0 and p-value of 0.359 is not significant. These
data do not support your statement about a cooling trend
over the last 10 years.

Coefficients:
Estimate Std. Error t value Pr(|t|)
(Intercept) 9.09247 9.62200 0.94 0.35
YEARMON[K:length(YEARMON)] -0.00442 0.00480 -0.92 0.36

Residual standard error: 0.181 on 133 degrees of freedom
Multiple R-Squared: 0.00634, Adjusted R-squared: -0.00113
F-statistic: 0.849 on 1 and 133 DF, p-value: 0.359

*************************************************

Looking at the data for the last 10 years is hardly cherry picking and the
data is noisy whether you use 20 or 10 years. Your statistics are valid
only if the variations about the line are gaussian but I agree the spike
hurts them. If you avoid the spike and use the data from 2002 onward you
get 0.023 deg C per year cooling with a r square value of 0.1 - not too
shabby given the limitations of the data.

However, I'm happy to accept your statistical argument that it cannot be
determined whether the global temperature has been warming or cooling for
the last 10 years. Make sure to tell the politicians.

How about the hemisphere disparity? No answers for that one I see.


  #5   Report Post  
Old April 7th 09, 04:37 AM posted to alt.global-warming,sci.environment,sci.geo.meteorology
external usenet poster
 
First recorded activity by Weather-Banter: Mar 2009
Posts: 62
Default Latest Satellite Data Show A Warming Global Climate

On Mon, 6 Apr 2009 16:11:41 -0700 (PDT), Roger Coppock
wrote:

Latest Satellite Data Show A Warming Global Climate

The satellite record, in all its current interpretations,
shows that the air near the surface is warming.
For background on the satellite temperature proxy please see:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Satelli...e_measurements

The URL below is one of the more conservative records
from the University of Alabama at Huntsville.

http://vortex.nsstc.uah.edu/public/m.../tltglhmam_5.2

The global data given above are graphed he

http://members.cox.net/rcoppock/UAH-MSU.jpg

The regression statistics for the line in the graph above
are below.

Coefficients:
Estimate Std. Error t value Pr(|t|)
(Intercept) -25.39055 2.13541 -11.9 2e-16
YEARMON 0.01277 0.00107 11.9 7.27e-28
---

Residual standard error: 0.179 on 362 degrees of freedom
Multiple R-Squared: 0.282
F-statistic: 142 on 1 and 362 DF, p-value: 7.27e-28



Broken promises, you keep promising warming,
I keep freezing.







  #6   Report Post  
Old April 7th 09, 06:34 AM posted to alt.global-warming,sci.environment,sci.geo.meteorology
external usenet poster
 
First recorded activity by Weather-Banter: May 2005
Posts: 1,360
Default Latest Satellite Data Show A Warming Global Climate

On Apr 6, 8:31*pm, "BobLl" wrote:
[ . . . ]
However, I'm happy to accept your statistical argument that it cannot be
determined whether the global temperature has been warming or cooling for
the last 10 years. * Make sure to tell the politicians.


Well, I'll be!

How about the hemisphere disparity? *No answers for that one I see.


That the Northern Hemisphere would warm faster
than the Southern was predicted by Arrhenius
in 1896. CO2 has more effect over land than
sea, and the Northern Hemisphere has more land
than the Southern.
  #7   Report Post  
Old April 7th 09, 10:05 AM posted to alt.global-warming,sci.environment,sci.geo.meteorology
external usenet poster
 
First recorded activity by Weather-Banter: Mar 2007
Posts: 364
Default Latest Satellite Data Show A Warming Global Climate

On Apr 7, 7:34*am, Roger Coppock wrote:
On Apr 6, 8:31*pm, "BobLl" wrote:
[ . . . ]

However, I'm happy to accept your statistical argument that it cannot be
determined whether the global temperature has been warming or cooling for
the last 10 years. * Make sure to tell the politicians.


Well, I'll be!

How about the hemisphere disparity? *No answers for that one I see.


That the Northern Hemisphere would warm faster
than the Southern was predicted by Arrhenius
in 1896. *CO2 has more effect over land than
sea, and the Northern Hemisphere has more land
than the Southern.


But the land in the south isnt warming. In fact much of it is
cooling. So Arrhenius is wrong, and so are you. AGW is nothing but
natural variability and intentionaly fraudulent scinece.

  #8   Report Post  
Old April 7th 09, 10:20 AM posted to alt.global-warming,sci.environment,sci.geo.meteorology
external usenet poster
 
First recorded activity by Weather-Banter: Feb 2008
Posts: 79
Default Latest Satellite Data Show A Warming Global Climate

On Apr 7, 1:31*pm, Roger Coppock wrote:
On Apr 6, 6:05*pm, "BobLl" wrote:





"Roger Coppock" wrote in message
...
Latest Satellite Data Show A Warming Global Climate


The satellite record, in all its current interpretations,
shows that the air near the surface is warming.
For background on the satellite temperature proxy please see:


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Satelli...e_measurements


The URL below is one of the more conservative records
from the University of Alabama at Huntsville.


http://vortex.nsstc.uah.edu/public/m.../tltglhmam_5.2


The global data given above are graphed he


http://members.cox.net/rcoppock/UAH-MSU.jpg


The regression statistics for the line in the graph above
are below.


Coefficients:
* * * * * * Estimate Std. Error t value Pr(|t|)
(Intercept) -25.39055 * *2.13541 * -11.9 * 2e-16
YEARMON * * * 0.01277 * *0.00107 * *11.9 * 7.27e-28
---


Residual standard error: 0.179 on 362 degrees of freedom
Multiple R-Squared: 0.282
F-statistic: *142 on 1 and 362 DF, *p-value: *7.27e-28


Yes I got the same result *0.0128 deg C warming per year for the full global
data set since 1988. * However if you do the same analysis for 1998 through
the present you get a cooling trend of 0.0044 deg C per year - going on for
the last 10 years.


Yes, we all know that there was a warm spike a decade
ago. *Fossil fool love to cherry pick data to place
that spike at the start of their biased interval.

Now be a good first year statistics student and compute
R squared a p-value for your cherry pie. *A R-squared
of 0 and p-value of 0.359 is not significant. *These
data do not support your statement about a cooling trend
over the last 10 years.

Coefficients:
* * * * * * * * * * * * * *Estimate Std. Error t value Pr(|t|)
(Intercept) * * * * * * * * 9.09247 * *9.62200 * *0.94 * * 0.35
YEARMON[K:length(YEARMON)] -0.00442 * *0.00480 * -0.92 * * 0.36

Residual standard error: 0.181 on 133 degrees of freedom
Multiple R-Squared: 0.00634, * *Adjusted R-squared: -0.00113
F-statistic: 0.849 on 1 and 133 DF, *p-value: 0.359


Yes, we all know that there was a warm spike a decade
ago. Fossil fool love to cherry pick data to place
that spike at the start of their biased interval.

Yes, we all know that AGW Alarmist Crackpots claimed the warm spike as
evidence of accelerating global warming when it occurred. Then when
the temperature dropped like a stone, they quickly changed their story
to try and cover their backsides.

Roger, and all other AGW Alarmist Crackpots, refuse to look at any
temperatures that occurred after the warm spike (because it proves
that AGW is wrong). Roger still lives in the time period between 1980
and 1998, and all of his regressions feature the warm spike near the
end of the time range, because this is the only way that he can get a
positive slope.
  #9   Report Post  
Old April 7th 09, 11:29 AM posted to alt.global-warming,sci.environment,sci.geo.meteorology
external usenet poster
 
First recorded activity by Weather-Banter: May 2005
Posts: 1,360
Default Latest Satellite Data Show A Warming Global Climate

On Apr 7, 2:20*am, Mr Right wrote:
[ . . . ]
Roger, and all other AGW Alarmist Crackpots, refuse to look at any
temperatures that occurred after the warm spike (because it proves
that AGW is wrong)


We do look at it.
When we look at those few years we discover
not much significance. It takes about three
decades to establish significant trends. As
I said:

Now be a good first year statistics student and compute
R squared a p-value for your cherry pie. A R-squared
of 0 and p-value of 0.359 is not significant. These
data do not support your statement about a cooling trend
over the last 10 years.

Coefficients:
Estimate Std. Error t value Pr(|t|)
(Intercept) 9.09247 9.62200 0.94 0.35
YEARMON[K:length(YEARMON)] -0.00442 0.00480 -0.92 0.36

Residual standard error: 0.181 on 133 degrees of freedom
Multiple R-Squared: 0.00634, Adjusted R-squared: -0.00113
F-statistic: 0.849 on 1 and 133 DF, p-value: 0.359

  #10   Report Post  
Old April 8th 09, 01:20 AM posted to alt.global-warming,sci.environment,sci.geo.meteorology
external usenet poster
 
First recorded activity by Weather-Banter: Jul 2008
Posts: 115
Default Latest Satellite Data Show A Warming Global Climate

On Apr 6, 11:37*pm, What A. Fool wrote:
On Mon, 6 Apr 2009 16:11:41 -0700 (PDT), Roger Coppock





wrote:
Latest Satellite Data Show A Warming Global Climate


The satellite record, in all its current interpretations,
shows that the air near the surface is warming.
For background on the satellite temperature proxy please see:


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Satelli...e_measurements


The URL below is one of the more conservative records
from the University of Alabama at Huntsville.


http://vortex.nsstc.uah.edu/public/m.../tltglhmam_5.2


The global data given above are graphed he


http://members.cox.net/rcoppock/UAH-MSU.jpg


The regression statistics for the line in the graph above
are below.


Coefficients:
* * * * * * Estimate Std. Error t value Pr(|t|)
(Intercept) -25.39055 * *2.13541 * -11.9 * 2e-16
YEARMON * * * 0.01277 * *0.00107 * *11.9 * 7.27e-28
---


Residual standard error: 0.179 on 362 degrees of freedom
Multiple R-Squared: 0.282
F-statistic: *142 on 1 and 362 DF, *p-value: *7.27e-28


* * * * * Broken promises, you keep promising warming,
I keep freezing.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Yeah, same here. They keep making warming promises, for about thirty
years now, but we keep getting cooler weather then usual. Shouldn't it
be a little warmer then usual after so many years of "Warming"?
I hope for Global Warming, and look forward to it. Less snow to
shovel, and maybe I won't have to retire to Florida.
I hope we aren't headed for Global Cooling.



Reply
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules

Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Latest UAH Satellite Data Show A Warming Global Climate Roger Coppock sci.geo.meteorology (Meteorology) 16 August 12th 09 12:22 PM
Latest Satellite Data Show A Warming Global Climate Roger Coppock sci.geo.meteorology (Meteorology) 2 July 14th 09 04:13 AM
Latest Satellite Data Show A Warming Global Climate Roger Coppock sci.geo.meteorology (Meteorology) 5 March 12th 09 12:17 AM
Latest Satellite Data Show A Warming Global Climate animal02 sci.geo.meteorology (Meteorology) 0 January 11th 09 12:02 AM
Latest Satellite Data Show A Warming Global Climate Roger Coppock sci.geo.meteorology (Meteorology) 40 October 8th 08 03:17 AM


All times are GMT. The time now is 11:50 AM.

Powered by vBulletin® Copyright ©2000 - 2025, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright ©2004-2025 Weather Banter.
The comments are property of their posters.
 

About Us

"It's about Weather"

 

Copyright © 2017