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Global Warming Researcher: I Can't Prove it But Believe Me Anyway
By Bob Ellis on April 7th, 2009

CNS News points to a global warming doom-crier who claims anthropogenic
global warming is melting arctic ice.but who can't prove a link.

"The maximum sea ice extent for 2008-09, reached on Feb. 28, was 5.85
million square miles," according to the NSDIC researcher. "That is 278,000
square miles less than the average extent for 1979 to 2000."

Let me do a little math and illustrate what this means. 278,000 square miles
less than the 5,850,000 average for the last 30 years is (drum roll
please).about 4.5% less than the average.

Translation="Big woop." In a poll, this would be called "margin of error."
In almost any analysis this would be deemed a simple variance.

The fact that this figure is an average tells us that the ice extent during
the last 30 years has sometimes been more than the average, sometimes less
than the average.

Let me say it again: "Big woop."

So how does this researcher formulate his "scientific" link between human
activity and any warming? Essentially his answer is, "I dunno." Wishful
thinking, perhaps?

The article also cites another climatologist who points to what is obviously
the more likely culprit for any changes: nature.

But a veteran climatologist who questions the global warming idea, told
CNSNes.com that NSIDC''s own data refute Meier's claim - and point to "solar
activity" as a prime cause for the melting ice pack.

Dr. Joe D'Aleo, executive director of the International Climate and
Environmental Change Assessment Project [ICECAP], said the depletion of sea
ice in the Arctic is part of the Earth's cycles - and "solar activity"

"The Arctic temperatures undergo a cyclical change every 60 to 70 years tied
to cycles on the sun and in the oceans," said D'Aleo, who was the first
director of meteorology at The Weather Channel.

"You can see very warm temperatures in the 1930s then cooling and another
warming in the last few decades in close correlation with solar activity,"
he added, "but with a poor correlation with CO2."

Greenland, now mostly covered with ice, was once warm enough that the
Vikings colonized it for several years and even established vineyards.
Obviously planet earth was at one time warmer than it is now.

Yet we are supposed to buy the fantasy that this time warming is caused by
our evil SUVs and other capitalist accouterments? Even though the planet was
once much warmer than it currently is, we are supposed to buy the idea that
this time any warming will entail global disaster?

Go pull my other leg, now.

It's time good Americans and people of common sense told these
earth-worshipping socialists to go stick their crazy ideas.

And according to the polls, more and more people are.



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Global Warming Researcher: I Can't Prove it But Believe Me Anyway
By Bob Ellis on April 7th, 2009

CNS News points to a global warming doom-crier who claims anthropogenic
global warming is melting arctic ice.but who can't prove a link.

"The maximum sea ice extent for 2008-09, reached on Feb. 28, was 5.85
million square miles," according to the NSDIC researcher. "That is 278,000
square miles less than the average extent for 1979 to 2000."

Let me do a little math and illustrate what this means. 278,000 square
miles less than the 5,850,000 average for the last 30 years is (drum roll
please).about 4.5% less than the average.

Translation="Big woop." In a poll, this would be called "margin of
error." In almost any analysis this would be deemed a simple variance.


Don't worry. When it's all gone it will be really easy to measure accuratly.




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