Obama is poison to Al Gore
Posted: April 18, 2009, 7:24 PM by Lawrence Solomon

Climate change skepticism has soared under Obama's presidency, with only one
third of American likely voters now blaming humans for climate change,
according to a Rasmussen poll released today. In contrast, 48% believe that
long term planetary trends are responsible, 7% blame other non-man-made
factors, and 11% aren’t sure.

The plummeting support for Al Gore’s thesis – the lowest ever – is a
complete reversal from one year ago, when 47% blamed humans and only 34% saw
long-term planetary trends as the culprits.

The rise in climate change scepticism, and decline in pinning the blame on
humans, tracks Obama’s assumption of power. In December, one month after his
defeat of John McCain in the presidential race, the number of Americans who
blamed people dropped to 43%. By February, the figure had dropped to 38% and
it now rests at 34%

Why has Al Gore’s position lost so much credibility with the American
public? While the Rasmussen poll does not explore this question, two Obama
factors could be at play.

First, public hostility toward George Bush and the Republicans likely
expressed itself in part as hostility toward global warming scepticism, with
which Bush and the Republicans were identified. As soon as the Republicans
lost power, many in the public lost their fervour in opposing climate change
scepticism.

Second, the recession, combined with proposals from the new Obama
administration to start taxing carbon in one form or another, gave the
public new reason to question whether carbon dioxide really is the demon
that climate change doomsayers claim. Upon investigation, the public would
have found little to support the doomsayer case.

On Apr 18, 10:08 pm, "Ms. 2" wrote:
Obama is poison to Al Gore
Posted: April 18, 2009, 7:24 PM by Lawrence Solomon

The plummeting support for Al Gore’s thesis – the lowest ever – is a
complete reversal from one year ago, when 47% blamed humans and only 34% saw
long-term planetary trends as the culprits.

The rise in climate change scepticism, and decline in pinning the blame on
humans, tracks Obama’s assumption of power. In December, one month after his
defeat of John McCain in the presidential race, the number of Americans who
blamed people dropped to 43%. By February, the figure had dropped to 38% and
it now rests at 34%

Obviously you've been living in a cave or something. The debate is now
OVER! It no longer matters what the people believe. They could all
believe 100% that CO2 doesn't cause AGW. The EPA has official
determined that it does. They found a consensus of the "right"
scientist and an international panel evaluating the situation has
proved beyond any doubt that "green house" gases cause AGW and CO2 is
a particularly bad culprit.

This finding has triggered pollution laws that now give total
authority to the Obama administration to shut down offending
industries, to broker the trading of "carbon indulgences" and to add
large taxes to your gasoline or electricity to cover the costs of the
AGW control.

So forget about Obama and Algore being on different sides. They are
NOT. And now Obama has given Goreites the power they need to save the
world. Proof will be in some years when we will all notice that
because of the vast sums we spent controlling AGW, that the climate
change of the earth will not have reached the "tipping point" and
killed us all. In fact my guess is that the money will "buy" us a
graph that is no more than slowing rising at the same rate it's been
rising since the ice age ended. So that means we will have all been
"saved". So lets all be thankful that men of the intelligence and
stature of Obama and Nobel Prize winning Algore have had the guts to
declare the AGW debate OVER before it's too late.

Your opinion of AGW no longer means ****.

"Benj" wrote

Obama is poison to Al Gore
Posted: April 18, 2009, 7:24 PM by Lawrence Solomon

The plummeting support for Al Gore’s thesis – the lowest ever – is a
complete reversal from one year ago, when 47% blamed humans and only 34%
saw
long-term planetary trends as the culprits.

The rise in climate change scepticism, and decline in pinning the blame on
humans, tracks Obama’s assumption of power. In December, one month after
his
defeat of John McCain in the presidential race, the number of Americans
who
blamed people dropped to 43%. By February, the figure had dropped to 38%
and
it now rests at 34%

The debate is now OVER!
=================

**** that. The Second America Civil War is only beginning, white man. There
is talk of secession everywhere. Obama is shaking hands with every communist
or Ayatollah that comes his way. Obama does not have the guns to enforce his
decrees.

"Ms. 2" wrote in message news:4ByGl.24224$PH1.14198@edtnps82...
"Benj" wrote

Obama is poison to Al Gore

The debate is now OVER!
=================

**** that. The Second America Civil War is only beginning, white man.
There is talk of secession everywhere. Obama is shaking hands with every
communist or Ayatollah that comes his way. Obama does not have the guns to
enforce his decrees.


The First American Civil War (1861-1865):

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Civil_War

The beginning of the US oil industry (1859):

From:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Petroleum#History

"The US petroleum industry began with Edwin Drake's drilling of a 69-foot
(21 m) oil well in 1859, on Oil Creek near Titusville, Pennsylvania, for the
Seneca Oil Company (originally yielding 25 barrels per day (4.0 m^3/d), by
the end of the year output was at the rate of 15 barrels per day (2.4
m^3/d))."
==========

It is no accident, that cheap energy made the energy of black slaves
economically redundant and The First American Civil War followed the
discovery of oil at Titusville, Pennsylvania by only two years. It is a
simple example of economic determinism, science that Obama ignores at his
own risk.

"Benj" wrote in message
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On Apr 18, 10:08 pm, "Ms. 2" wrote:
Obama is poison to Al Gore
Posted: April 18, 2009, 7:24 PM by Lawrence Solomon

The plummeting support for Al Gore’s thesis – the lowest ever – is a
complete reversal from one year ago, when 47% blamed humans and only 34%
saw
long-term planetary trends as the culprits.

The rise in climate change scepticism, and decline in pinning the blame on
humans, tracks Obama’s assumption of power. In December, one month after
his
defeat of John McCain in the presidential race, the number of Americans
who
blamed people dropped to 43%. By February, the figure had dropped to 38%
and
it now rests at 34%

Obviously you've been living in a cave or something. The debate is now
OVER! It no longer matters what the people believe. They could all
believe 100% that CO2 doesn't cause AGW. The EPA has official
determined that it does.

Wrong! CO2 makes plants GROW !!! GREEN !!!

Where did all that coal come from?? HIGH CO2 levels !!

moron(s)

Water Vapor IS a greenhouse gas !!

On Apr 19, 1:25 am, "Ms. 2" wrote:

The debate is now OVER!
=================

**** that. The Second America Civil War is only beginning, white man. There
is talk of secession everywhere. Obama is shaking hands with every communist
or Ayatollah that comes his way. Obama does not have the guns to enforce his
decrees.

Which reminds me, did anyone hear any reports of Chavez and Obama
hobnobbing down at the recent meeting of Western Hemisphere
countries? I'm betting that pair had a, as they say, "productive"
meeting!

And as I've promoted for some years now secession IS the answer! And
I've been totally surprised to hear more and more talk of it in
official state circles as well. Ohio just passed a "state sovereignty"
resolution. Of course it only works if ALL states sign on to "dropping
out" or at least a super-majority of them. The concept is simple with
one move your state declares itself seceded from the current union and
part of a NEW government based upon the original constitution and the
first 13 amendments (no slavery, bunky). Our authority is the
Declaration of Independence. And both MUST be done at the same time to
prevent the Rockefeller "NewStates Constitution" bunch from subverting
a constitutional convention (con-con) and installing their own
nightmare version of government. As for Obama having guns, he has
already stated his goal of creating a domestic armed police force
(complete with concentration camps already authorized for
construction) that is 'stronger" than the military! Wow! But most
Americans seem to just yawn and pick their teeth at these frightening
declarations.

On Apr 19, 11:03 pm, "habitoid" wrote:
"Benj" wrote in message

Obviously you've been living in a cave or something. The debate is now
OVER! It no longer matters what the people believe. They could all
believe 100% that CO2 doesn't cause AGW. The EPA has official
determined that it does.

Wrong! CO2 makes plants GROW !!! GREEN !!!

Where did all that coal come from?? HIGH CO2 levels !!

moron(s)

Water Vapor IS a greenhouse gas !!

What does truth have to do with this political debate?

Ms. 2 wrote:
"Benj" wrote

Obama is poison to Al Gore
Posted: April 18, 2009, 7:24 PM by Lawrence Solomon

The plummeting support for Al Gore’s thesis – the lowest ever – is a
complete reversal from one year ago, when 47% blamed humans and only 34%
saw
long-term planetary trends as the culprits.

The rise in climate change scepticism, and decline in pinning the blame on
humans, tracks Obama’s assumption of power. In December, one month after
his
defeat of John McCain in the presidential race, the number of Americans
who
blamed people dropped to 43%. By February, the figure had dropped to 38%
and
it now rests at 34%

The debate is now OVER!
=================

**** that. The Second America Civil War is only beginning, white man. There
is talk of secession everywhere. Obama is shaking hands with every communist
or Ayatollah that comes his way. Obama does not have the guns to enforce his
decrees.


What debate? When was there EVER an actual debate?