On May 18, 2:35 pm, "ozonb" wrote:
"Fran" wrote in message

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On May 18, 11:20 am, "ozonb" wrote:

May 18 2009

If greenies love nature so much, why don't they live anywhere other than
Australia's most urbanised areas?

sigh You polluters' cartel spruikers are so pathetic. Either you are
projecting your self-seeking misanthropy onto others, are moronic, or
are deliberatly dissembling.

Fairly obviously, there is a difference between serving one's
individual interest and the collective interest. A person who merely
want to solve his own aesthetic needs in the here and now would indeed
be far better off living in some idyllic rural off-grid setting
(assuming he or she could make a living in the place).

That's not a solution that could conceivably work for more than a
handful of people. Environmentalists favour making it possible for
highly urbanised people to live with the smallest possible footprint
consistent with people's reasonable expectations. We want to make the
world a better place, rather than seek out some realtively unspoiled
corner of it and erecting a keep out sign, and watching with
equanimity as the rest of the planet on which that corner stands goes
to hell.

I don't know whether Tim Blair is simply moronic, ignorant,
misanthropic, selfish or someone who tells whatever lies the polluters
think will fly, but your persistent repost of his trash in here simply
reminds reasonable people of the character of people you rub shoulders
with.

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Admit it baby, you love energy intensive urban life so much, that hell would have to freeze over before you'd consider "going bush".


That's partly true. I like most of the comforts that having on demand
energy makes possible. So do most people. The question is -- can most
of those comforts be obtained without substantial resort to practices
that will, in the fullness of time, harm others? For me, the answer is
yes. For you the answer is "I hope not because I am working as an
unpaid lackey of the polluters' cartel." At least, that would be your
answer if you were honest.

Also, you won't make "world a better place" by rationing energy!

In a modest way yes it would.

Fran