GoSat (Ibuki) Satellite Maps Global CO2 Forcing
Previous Models Based on Ground Data Confirmed

Measuring the heat trapped by CO2 in the atmosphere
at a single location with an infrared spectrophotometer
was a simple exercise that would appear at high school
level science fairs. Before the Japanese GoSat (Ibuki)
satellite, extending that one site measurement to cover
the entire Earth would require an expensive network of
stations. Please see:

http://www.jaxa.jp/projects/sat/gosat/index_e.html

also see:

http://www.jaxa.jp/press/2009/05/20090528_ibuki_e.html

Another one of Bonzo's Barfs.
This time, he flunks basic science.

On Jun 2, 10:17*pm, "ozonb" wrote:
"Roger Coppock" wrote in message

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GoSat (Ibuki) Satellite Maps Global CO2 Forcing
Previous Models Based on Ground Data Confirmed

Measuring the heat trapped by CO2 in the atmosphere
at a single location with an infrared spectrophotometer
was a simple exercise that would appear at high school
level science fairs. *Before the Japanese GoSat (Ibuki)
satellite, extending that one site measurement to cover
the entire Earth would require an expensive network of
stations. *Please see:

http://www.jaxa.jp/projects/sat/gosat/index_e.html

also see:

http://www.jaxa.jp/press/2009/05/20090528_ibuki_e.html

Sorry komrade but they seem to be measuring CO2 density NOT "heat trapped by CO2"!!!!

CO2 Density by radiation = CO2 Forcing.

Measuring radiation to measure CO2 density
is also measuring CO2 forcing, as the radiation
is the forcing.


Where on earth did you get that bunkum from???????????????????????????????????

Warmest Regards

Bonzo

On Tue, 02 Jun 2009 22:00:19 -0700, Roger Coppock wrote:

GoSat (Ibuki) Satellite Maps Global CO2 Forcing Previous Models Based on
Ground Data Confirmed

Measuring the heat trapped by CO2 in the atmosphere at a single location
with an infrared spectrophotometer was a simple exercise that would
appear at high school level science fairs. Before the Japanese GoSat
(Ibuki) satellite, extending that one site measurement to cover the
entire Earth would require an expensive network of stations. Please
see:

http://www.jaxa.jp/projects/sat/gosat/index_e.html

also see:

http://www.jaxa.jp/press/2009/05/20090528_ibuki_e.html

They're measuring the concentrations, not the "heat trapped":

begin quote

The attached diagrams show initial analyses of clear-sky carbon dioxide
and methane column averaged dry air mole fraction (Note) over land for
the period April 20-28, 2009. These carbon dioxide and methane data show
a hemispheric gradient, with largest values in the Northern Hemisphere,
broadly in agreement with existing ground-based measurements.

end quote

I see no claims that they are showing CO2 is actually affecting surface
temperatures, or that there is any "forcing".

Is Roger deliberately trying to mislead readers, or is he just clueless?

Or, more likely, both?

Roger Coppock wrote:
GoSat (Ibuki) Satellite Maps Global CO2 Forcing
Previous Models Based on Ground Data Confirmed

Measuring the heat trapped by CO2 in the atmosphere
at a single location with an infrared spectrophotometer
was a simple exercise that would appear at high school
level science fairs. Before the Japanese GoSat (Ibuki)
satellite, extending that one site measurement to cover
the entire Earth would require an expensive network of
stations. Please see:

http://www.jaxa.jp/projects/sat/gosat/index_e.html

also see:

http://www.jaxa.jp/press/2009/05/20090528_ibuki_e.html

Do you know if the blank areas on the global map represent lack of data,
or values less than 360ppm?
Also, what is the latitude coverage?

T.

Bill Ward wrote:
On Tue, 02 Jun 2009 22:00:19 -0700, Roger Coppock wrote:

GoSat (Ibuki) Satellite Maps Global CO2 Forcing Previous Models
Based on Ground Data Confirmed

Measuring the heat trapped by CO2 in the atmosphere at a single
location with an infrared spectrophotometer was a simple exercise
that would appear at high school level science fairs. Before the
Japanese GoSat (Ibuki) satellite, extending that one site
measurement to cover the entire Earth would require an expensive
network of stations. Please see:

http://www.jaxa.jp/projects/sat/gosat/index_e.html

also see:

http://www.jaxa.jp/press/2009/05/20090528_ibuki_e.html

They're measuring the concentrations, not the "heat trapped":

begin quote

The attached diagrams show initial analyses of clear-sky carbon
dioxide and methane column averaged dry air mole fraction (Note) over
land for the period April 20-28, 2009. These carbon dioxide and
methane data show a hemispheric gradient, with largest values in the
Northern Hemisphere, broadly in agreement with existing ground-based
measurements.

end quote

I see no claims that they are showing CO2 is actually affecting
surface temperatures, or that there is any "forcing".

You are trying to pretend CO2 does not absorb IR? Funny! lol

On Jun 3, 8:08*pm, Bill Ward wrote:
On Tue, 02 Jun 2009 22:00:19 -0700, Roger Coppock wrote:
GoSat (Ibuki) Satellite Maps Global CO2 Forcing Previous Models Based on
Ground Data Confirmed

Measuring the heat trapped by CO2 in the atmosphere at a single location
with an infrared spectrophotometer was a simple exercise that would
appear at high school level science fairs. *Before the Japanese GoSat
(Ibuki) satellite, extending that one site measurement to cover the
entire Earth would require an expensive network of stations. *Please
see:

http://www.jaxa.jp/projects/sat/gosat/index_e.html

also see:

http://www.jaxa.jp/press/2009/05/20090528_ibuki_e.html

They're measuring the concentrations, not the "heat trapped":

begin quote

The attached diagrams show initial analyses of clear-sky carbon dioxide
and methane column averaged dry air mole fraction (Note) over land for
the period April 20-28, 2009. These carbon dioxide and methane data show
a hemispheric gradient, with largest values in the Northern Hemisphere,
broadly in agreement with existing ground-based measurements.

end quote

I see no claims that they are showing CO2 is actually affecting surface
temperatures, or that there is any "forcing".

Is Roger deliberately trying to mislead readers, or is he just clueless?

Or, more likely, both?- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Alarmists believe that CO2 and temperature are the same thing.

When they claim that global warming is accelerating, it is NOT because
the temperature is accelerating (or even increasing). It is because
they think that CO2 is accelerating.

Roger has been totally sucked in by this belief.

On Thu, 4 Jun 2009 04:20:14 -0700 (PDT), Mr Right
wrote:

On Jun 3, 8:08Â*pm, Bill Ward wrote:
On Tue, 02 Jun 2009 22:00:19 -0700, Roger Coppock wrote:
GoSat (Ibuki) Satellite Maps Global CO2 Forcing Previous Models Based on
Ground Data Confirmed

Measuring the heat trapped by CO2 in the atmosphere at a single location
with an infrared spectrophotometer was a simple exercise that would
appear at high school level science fairs. Â*Before the Japanese GoSat
(Ibuki) satellite, extending that one site measurement to cover the
entire Earth would require an expensive network of stations. Â*Please
see:

http://www.jaxa.jp/projects/sat/gosat/index_e.html

also see:

http://www.jaxa.jp/press/2009/05/20090528_ibuki_e.html

They're measuring the concentrations, not the "heat trapped":

begin quote

The attached diagrams show initial analyses of clear-sky carbon dioxide
and methane column averaged dry air mole fraction (Note) over land for
the period April 20-28, 2009. These carbon dioxide and methane data show
a hemispheric gradient, with largest values in the Northern Hemisphere,
broadly in agreement with existing ground-based measurements.

end quote

I see no claims that they are showing CO2 is actually affecting surface
temperatures, or that there is any "forcing".

Is Roger deliberately trying to mislead readers, or is he just clueless?

Or, more likely, both?- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Alarmists believe that CO2 and temperature are the same thing.

When they claim that global warming is accelerating, it is NOT because
the temperature is accelerating (or even increasing). It is because
they think that CO2 is accelerating.

Roger has been totally sucked in by this belief.


The high temperature here today is 25 degrees F BELOW
normal, I hate to see it, but that will have a big effect on the NH
monthly average temperature.

I wonder if Al Gore could be in town.

Mr Right wrote:
On Jun 3, 8:08 pm, Bill Ward wrote:
On Tue, 02 Jun 2009 22:00:19 -0700, Roger Coppock wrote:
GoSat (Ibuki) Satellite Maps Global CO2 Forcing Previous Models Based on
Ground Data Confirmed
Measuring the heat trapped by CO2 in the atmosphere at a single location
with an infrared spectrophotometer was a simple exercise that would
appear at high school level science fairs. Before the Japanese GoSat
(Ibuki) satellite, extending that one site measurement to cover the
entire Earth would require an expensive network of stations. Please
see:
http://www.jaxa.jp/projects/sat/gosat/index_e.html
also see:
http://www.jaxa.jp/press/2009/05/20090528_ibuki_e.html
They're measuring the concentrations, not the "heat trapped":

begin quote

The attached diagrams show initial analyses of clear-sky carbon dioxide
and methane column averaged dry air mole fraction (Note) over land for
the period April 20-28, 2009. These carbon dioxide and methane data show
a hemispheric gradient, with largest values in the Northern Hemisphere,
broadly in agreement with existing ground-based measurements.

end quote

I see no claims that they are showing CO2 is actually affecting surface
temperatures, or that there is any "forcing".

Is Roger deliberately trying to mislead readers, or is he just clueless?

Or, more likely, both?- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Alarmists believe that CO2 and temperature are the same thing.

With alarmists this may be the case, but scientists are smarter. They
only claim that the forcing of the climate is related to CO2
concentrations. The temperature change is then related to the output of
a model where the forcing is adjusted.


When they claim that global warming is accelerating, it is NOT because
the temperature is accelerating (or even increasing). It is because
they think that CO2 is accelerating.

Roger has been totally sucked in by this belief.


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