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CO2 Level at Least 800,000-Year High!

According to the Earth System Research Laboratory of the
US National Oceanic & Atmospheric Administration, the May
monthly mean CO2 concentration measured at Mauna Loa was
390.18 ppmv. This is a new maximum for this data set,
the longest term and most frequently referenced CO2 data.

Also, according to the IPCC Working Group 1 Fourth Assessment Report's
list of robust findings:

"Current atmospheric concentrations of CO2 and CH4,
and their associated positive radiative forcing,
far exceed those determined from ice core
measurements spanning the last 650,000 years."

The EPICA Dome C record extends this to 800,000 years.
Please see data from Lüthi, D et al. (2008) at
http://doi.pangaea.de/10.1594/PANGAE...01?format=html

For a graph and curve fit of data taken at Mauna Loa,
please see:
http://members.cox.net/rcoppock/CO2-6DegreesFreedom.jpg

Clearly, the atmospheric CO2 concentration is rising
exponentially. To see this, compare the trend of the
red colored points on the graph I have provided with
a straight line.

=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
These data may be found at:
ftp://ftp.cmdl.noaa.gov/ccg/co2/trends/co2_mm_mlo.txt

The yearly means of the 608 points of monthly data follow:
YEAR CO2_ppmv
1958 315.33 8 months of data
1959 315.98
1960 316.91
1961 317.64
1962 318.45
1963 318.99
1964 319.20 9 months of data
1965 320.04
1966 321.38
1967 322.16
1968 323.04
1969 324.62
1970 325.68
1971 326.32
1972 327.45
1973 329.68
1974 330.17
1975 331.13 11 months of data
1976 332.05
1977 333.78
1978 335.41
1979 336.78
1980 338.68
1981 340.11
1982 341.22
1983 342.84
1984 344.22 11 months of data
1985 345.87
1986 347.19
1987 348.98
1988 351.45
1989 352.90
1990 354.16
1991 355.48
1992 356.27
1993 356.95
1994 358.64
1995 360.63
1996 362.37
1997 363.47
1998 366.50
1999 368.14
2000 369.40
2001 371.07
2002 373.17
2003 375.78
2004 377.52
2005 379.76
2006 381.85
2007 383.71
2008 385.57
2009 388.55 5 months of data


[Watch the fossil fools dust off an ancient archive of
pseudo-science and arcane mathematics in a lame attempt
to challenge these basic facts. That's entertainment!

One lie that fossil fools frequently fib is that there
is no relationship between CO2 and global mean surface
temperature, or that this relationship has broken down
recently. For the truth, a scatter-plot of this strong
relationship, please see:

http://members.cox.net/rcoppock/TempVsCO2.jpg

N= 51, R^2 = 0.78
Non-Zero Slope F-statistic: 177.709 on 1 and 49 DF,
p-value: 2.2e-16 ]

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On Jun 10, 1:57*pm, Roger Coppock wrote:
CO2 Level at Least 800,000-Year High!

According to the Earth System Research Laboratory of the
US National Oceanic & Atmospheric Administration, the May
monthly mean CO2 concentration measured at Mauna Loa was
390.18 ppmv. *


••*ROTFLMAO

Measuring CO2 in an active volcano is like
measuring the fizz in a warm Coke®
USELESS but Cop Cock doesn't know that.
Spell him S T U P I D.
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On Jun 10, 1:57*pm, Roger Coppock wrote:

CO2 Level at Least 800,000-Year High!


According to the Earth System Research Laboratory of the
US National Oceanic & Atmospheric Administration, the May
monthly mean CO2 concentration measured at Mauna Loa was
390.18 ppmv. *


••*ROTFLMAO

* * Measuring CO2 in an active volcano is like
* * measuring the fizz in a warm Coke®
* * USELESS but Cop Cock doesn't know that.
* * Spell him S T U P I D.


They control for local effects quiet well.
If you can't understand that, . . .

Then, Bonzo, take you measurement from over
a hundred other sources, they confirm each
other..

http://gaw.kishou.go.jp/wdcgg/

ALSO, there's IBUKI (Gosat) which is currently
measuring CO2 concentrations from space.

http://www.gosat.nies.go.jp/eng/GOSAT_pamphlet_en.pdf
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Roger Coppock wrote:
CO2 Level at Least 800,000-Year High!

According to the Earth System Research Laboratory of the
US National Oceanic & Atmospheric Administration, the May
monthly mean CO2 concentration measured at Mauna Loa was
390.18 ppmv. This is a new maximum for this data set,
the longest term and most frequently referenced CO2 data.

Also, according to the IPCC Working Group 1 Fourth Assessment Report's
list of robust findings:

"Current atmospheric concentrations of CO2 and CH4,
and their associated positive radiative forcing,
far exceed those determined from ice core
measurements spanning the last 650,000 years."

The EPICA Dome C record extends this to 800,000 years.
Please see data from Lüthi, D et al. (2008) at
http://doi.pangaea.de/10.1594/PANGAE...01?format=html

For a graph and curve fit of data taken at Mauna Loa,
please see:
http://members.cox.net/rcoppock/CO2-6DegreesFreedom.jpg

Clearly, the atmospheric CO2 concentration is rising
exponentially. To see this, compare the trend of the
red colored points on the graph I have provided with
a straight line.

=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
These data may be found at:
ftp://ftp.cmdl.noaa.gov/ccg/co2/trends/co2_mm_mlo.txt

The yearly means of the 608 points of monthly data follow:
YEAR CO2_ppmv
1958 315.33 8 months of data
1959 315.98
1960 316.91
1961 317.64
1962 318.45
1963 318.99
1964 319.20 9 months of data
1965 320.04
1966 321.38
1967 322.16
1968 323.04
1969 324.62
1970 325.68
1971 326.32
1972 327.45
1973 329.68
1974 330.17
1975 331.13 11 months of data
1976 332.05
1977 333.78
1978 335.41
1979 336.78
1980 338.68
1981 340.11
1982 341.22
1983 342.84
1984 344.22 11 months of data
1985 345.87
1986 347.19
1987 348.98
1988 351.45
1989 352.90
1990 354.16
1991 355.48
1992 356.27
1993 356.95
1994 358.64
1995 360.63
1996 362.37
1997 363.47
1998 366.50
1999 368.14
2000 369.40
2001 371.07
2002 373.17
2003 375.78
2004 377.52
2005 379.76
2006 381.85
2007 383.71
2008 385.57
2009 388.55 5 months of data


[Watch the fossil fools dust off an ancient archive of
pseudo-science and arcane mathematics in a lame attempt
to challenge these basic facts. That's entertainment!

One lie that fossil fools frequently fib is that there
is no relationship between CO2 and global mean surface
temperature, or that this relationship has broken down
recently. For the truth, a scatter-plot of this strong
relationship, please see:

http://members.cox.net/rcoppock/TempVsCO2.jpg

N= 51, R^2 = 0.78
Non-Zero Slope F-statistic: 177.709 on 1 and 49 DF,
p-value: 2.2e-16 ]


I hope all the glaciers melt and flood all the lands of the world and
drown all these mothafukking religious people.
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Peter Muehlbauer wrote:
Roger Coppock wrote:

CO2 Level at Least 800,000-Year High!

According to the Earth System Research Laboratory of the
US National Oceanic & Atmospheric Administration, the May
monthly mean CO2 concentration measured at Mauna Loa was
390.18 ppmv. This is a new maximum for this data set,
the longest term and most frequently referenced CO2 data.

Also, according to the IPCC Working Group 1 Fourth Assessment Report's
list of robust findings:

"Current atmospheric concentrations of CO2 and CH4,
and their associated positive radiative forcing,
far exceed those determined from ice core
measurements spanning the last 650,000 years."

The EPICA Dome C record extends this to 800,000 years.
Please see data from Lüthi, D et al. (2008) at
http://doi.pangaea.de/10.1594/PANGAE...01?format=html

For a graph and curve fit of data taken at Mauna Loa,
please see:
http://members.cox.net/rcoppock/CO2-6DegreesFreedom.jpg

Clearly, the atmospheric CO2 concentration is rising
exponentially. To see this, compare the trend of the
red colored points on the graph I have provided with
a straight line.

=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
These data may be found at:
ftp://ftp.cmdl.noaa.gov/ccg/co2/trends/co2_mm_mlo.txt

The yearly means of the 608 points of monthly data follow:
YEAR CO2_ppmv
1958 315.33 8 months of data
1959 315.98
1960 316.91
1961 317.64
1962 318.45
1963 318.99
1964 319.20 9 months of data
1965 320.04
1966 321.38
1967 322.16
1968 323.04
1969 324.62
1970 325.68
1971 326.32
1972 327.45
1973 329.68
1974 330.17
1975 331.13 11 months of data
1976 332.05
1977 333.78
1978 335.41
1979 336.78
1980 338.68
1981 340.11
1982 341.22
1983 342.84
1984 344.22 11 months of data
1985 345.87
1986 347.19
1987 348.98
1988 351.45
1989 352.90
1990 354.16
1991 355.48
1992 356.27
1993 356.95
1994 358.64
1995 360.63
1996 362.37
1997 363.47
1998 366.50
1999 368.14
2000 369.40
2001 371.07
2002 373.17
2003 375.78
2004 377.52
2005 379.76
2006 381.85
2007 383.71
2008 385.57
2009 388.55 5 months of data


[Watch the fossil fools dust off an ancient archive of
pseudo-science and arcane mathematics in a lame attempt
to challenge these basic facts. That's entertainment!

One lie that fossil fools frequently fib is that there
is no relationship between CO2 and global mean surface
temperature, or that this relationship has broken down
recently. For the truth, a scatter-plot of this strong
relationship, please see:

http://members.cox.net/rcoppock/TempVsCO2.jpg


When will you nutcase eventually show us, that temperature has any proven
direct link to CO2?
A correlation does not mean that temperature is a function of CO2 and vice
versa.
Based on 51 years of measurement from a single site means a negligible chance
of 0,0064 % for true to your snooty proclaimed 800,000 years.

It's you claiming a correlation.
I say, this could also be a remarkable coincidence.
So it's up to you to adduce evidence for your assumption.


Poor old Peter making a fool of himself again, doesn't know about the
global data collection network.
http://www.esrl.noaa.gov/gmd/aggi/





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On Jun 10, 3:13*pm, Peter Muehlbauer
wrote:
Roger Coppock wrote:
CO2 Level at Least 800,000-Year High!


According to the Earth System Research Laboratory of the
US National Oceanic & Atmospheric Administration, the May
monthly mean CO2 concentration measured at Mauna Loa was
390.18 ppmv. *This is a new maximum for this data set,
the longest term and most frequently referenced CO2 data.


Also, according to the IPCC Working Group 1 Fourth Assessment Report's
list of robust findings:


* *"Current atmospheric concentrations of CO2 and CH4,
* * and their associated positive radiative forcing,
* * far exceed those determined from ice core
* * measurements spanning the last 650,000 years."


The EPICA Dome C record extends this to 800,000 years.
Please see data from Lüthi, D et al. (2008) at
http://doi.pangaea.de/10.1594/PANGAE...01?format=html


For a graph and curve fit of data taken at Mauna Loa,
please see:
http://members.cox.net/rcoppock/CO2-6DegreesFreedom.jpg


Clearly, the atmospheric CO2 concentration is rising
exponentially. *To see this, compare the trend of the
red colored points on the graph I have provided with
a straight line.


=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
These data may be found at:
ftp://ftp.cmdl.noaa.gov/ccg/co2/trends/co2_mm_mlo.txt


The yearly means of the 608 points of monthly data follow:
YEAR CO2_ppmv
1958 315.33 * 8 months of data
1959 315.98
1960 316.91
1961 317.64
1962 318.45
1963 318.99
1964 319.20 * 9 months of data
1965 320.04
1966 321.38
1967 322.16
1968 323.04
1969 324.62
1970 325.68
1971 326.32
1972 327.45
1973 329.68
1974 330.17
1975 331.13 * 11 months of data
1976 332.05
1977 333.78
1978 335.41
1979 336.78
1980 338.68
1981 340.11
1982 341.22
1983 342.84
1984 344.22 * 11 months of data
1985 345.87
1986 347.19
1987 348.98
1988 351.45
1989 352.90
1990 354.16
1991 355.48
1992 356.27
1993 356.95
1994 358.64
1995 360.63
1996 362.37
1997 363.47
1998 366.50
1999 368.14
2000 369.40
2001 371.07
2002 373.17
2003 375.78
2004 377.52
2005 379.76
2006 381.85
2007 383.71
2008 385.57
2009 388.55 * 5 months of data


[Watch the fossil fools dust off an ancient archive of
pseudo-science and arcane mathematics in a lame attempt
to challenge these basic facts. *That's entertainment!


One lie that fossil fools frequently fib is that there
is no relationship between CO2 and global mean surface
temperature, or that this relationship has broken down
recently. *For the truth, a scatter-plot of this strong
relationship, please see:


* *http://members.cox.net/rcoppock/TempVsCO2.jpg


When will you nutcase eventually show us, that temperature has any proven
direct link to CO2?
A correlation does not mean that temperature is a function of CO2 and vice
versa.
Based on 51 years of measurement from a single site means a negligible chance
of 0,0064 % for true to your snooty proclaimed 800,000 years.

It's you claiming a correlation.
I say, this could also be a remarkable coincidence.
So it's up to you to adduce evidence for your assumption.


Hey Fuk Brains Joseph Fourier demostrated that in the 1820 you moron
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On Jun 10, 5:39*pm, Peter Muehlbauer
wrote:
Tom P wrote:
Peter Muehlbauer wrote:
Roger Coppock wrote:


CO2 Level at Least 800,000-Year High!


According to the Earth System Research Laboratory of the
US National Oceanic & Atmospheric Administration, the May
monthly mean CO2 concentration measured at Mauna Loa was
390.18 ppmv. *This is a new maximum for this data set,
the longest term and most frequently referenced CO2 data.


Also, according to the IPCC Working Group 1 Fourth Assessment Report's
list of robust findings:


* *"Current atmospheric concentrations of CO2 and CH4,
* * and their associated positive radiative forcing,
* * far exceed those determined from ice core
* * measurements spanning the last 650,000 years."


The EPICA Dome C record extends this to 800,000 years.
Please see data from Lüthi, D et al. (2008) at
http://doi.pangaea.de/10.1594/PANGAE...01?format=html


For a graph and curve fit of data taken at Mauna Loa,
please see:
http://members.cox.net/rcoppock/CO2-6DegreesFreedom.jpg


Clearly, the atmospheric CO2 concentration is rising
exponentially. *To see this, compare the trend of the
red colored points on the graph I have provided with
a straight line.


=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
These data may be found at:
ftp://ftp.cmdl.noaa.gov/ccg/co2/trends/co2_mm_mlo.txt


The yearly means of the 608 points of monthly data follow:
YEAR CO2_ppmv
1958 315.33 * 8 months of data
1959 315.98
1960 316.91
1961 317.64
1962 318.45
1963 318.99
1964 319.20 * 9 months of data
1965 320.04
1966 321.38
1967 322.16
1968 323.04
1969 324.62
1970 325.68
1971 326.32
1972 327.45
1973 329.68
1974 330.17
1975 331.13 * 11 months of data
1976 332.05
1977 333.78
1978 335.41
1979 336.78
1980 338.68
1981 340.11
1982 341.22
1983 342.84
1984 344.22 * 11 months of data
1985 345.87
1986 347.19
1987 348.98
1988 351.45
1989 352.90
1990 354.16
1991 355.48
1992 356.27
1993 356.95
1994 358.64
1995 360.63
1996 362.37
1997 363.47
1998 366.50
1999 368.14
2000 369.40
2001 371.07
2002 373.17
2003 375.78
2004 377.52
2005 379.76
2006 381.85
2007 383.71
2008 385.57
2009 388.55 * 5 months of data


[Watch the fossil fools dust off an ancient archive of
pseudo-science and arcane mathematics in a lame attempt
to challenge these basic facts. *That's entertainment!


One lie that fossil fools frequently fib is that there
is no relationship between CO2 and global mean surface
temperature, or that this relationship has broken down
recently. *For the truth, a scatter-plot of this strong
relationship, please see:


* *http://members.cox.net/rcoppock/TempVsCO2.jpg


When will you nutcase eventually show us, that temperature has any proven
direct link to CO2?
A correlation does not mean that temperature is a function of CO2 and vice
versa.
Based on 51 years of measurement from a single site means a negligible chance
of 0,0064 % for true to your snooty proclaimed 800,000 years.


It's you claiming a correlation.
I say, this could also be a remarkable coincidence.
So it's up to you to adduce evidence for your assumption.


Poor old Peter making a fool of himself again, doesn't know about the
global data collection network.
http://www.esrl.noaa.gov/gmd/aggi/


Poor old Tom P falls for gibberish propaganda from k00ksites that presume
something that doesn't exist or can't be evidenced by them.

Their theory is based on assumptions.
It's a circular argument, an attempt to evidence a statement per deduction by
using this statement as a presupposition.
This is a violation of principium rationis sufficientis.
Circular arguments are willingly misspent to evidence scientifically untenable
alleged facts or elements of faith, to gain proponents for an idea or
ideology.
To undergird the legitimacy of a conclusion, the circular argument often is
appendixed by rebuttal of an alleged or severe distorted argument of the
opposing party.
This oftens ends in a trilemma which amounts to nothing but infinite recourse,
circular argument or dogma.
It's an old principle already used by the ancient Greeks.

AGW is such a deliberately argumentative fallacy.

Last decade there have been seen more storks.
Last decade there have been born more babies.
More storks bring more babies.

CO2 is inclining.
Temperature is inclining.
CO2 correlates to temperature.

Typical AGW hogwash.
Poor Tom P.


You know nothing about radiative forcing you moron
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Tom P wrote:
Peter Muehlbauer wrote:
Roger Coppock wrote:


CO2 Level at Least 800,000-Year High!


According to the Earth System Research Laboratory of the
US National Oceanic & Atmospheric Administration, the May
monthly mean CO2 concentration measured at Mauna Loa was
390.18 ppmv. This is a new maximum for this data set,
the longest term and most frequently referenced CO2 data.


It's you claiming a correlation.
I say, this could also be a remarkable coincidence.
So it's up to you to adduce evidence for your assumption.


Poor old Peter making a fool of himself again, doesn't know about the
global data collection network.
http://www.esrl.noaa.gov/gmd/aggi/


Just from a first glance:

NOAA identify one of the surface stations as "Christmas Island".
http://www.esrl.noaa.gov/gmd/aggi/aggi_2008.png

That might not be a problem except that they show it to be in the
middle of the Pacific Ocean. So it's actually *Kiritimati*, a
former nuclear test site with unusually-high levels of background
radiation.

The real Christmas Island is officially in the Indian Ocean.

I am deeply suspicious of the quality of the measurements; given the
historical precedent of surface weather stations; a high proportion
of which don't now fit the prerequites to be used for meteorological
services. And also suspicious of the secret way in which the raw
data are manipulated prior to publication.
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On Jun 10, 4:03*pm, Tom P wrote:
[ . . . ]
Poor old Peter making a fool of himself again,


He does that almost every time he posts.

doesn't know about the
global data collection network


http://www.esrl.noaa.gov/gmd/

Nor does he want to learn.
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You {Peter] know nothing about radiative forcing you moron


Nor does he want to learn.


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