z0n0b wrote:



Yeah right, and my name is Donald Duck!

QUOTE: the depression conditions in the great valley reflect more than a
mere water shortage. They are the direct result of conscious actions by
environmental activists to usher in a new era of scarcity.


Well Donald Duck, here is how it works:

Yes, the "new era of scarcity" is here. That would be hard to deny. The
scarcity of water is caused by lack of rain and snow. However it is no
different than the old eras of scarcity which happens periodically and
were also due to lack of rain and snow.

The farmers in response to water shortages set to squawking about it
and the Governor in response to that squawking declares the area a
disaster area. That makes the farmers eligible for Federal disaster
relief funds and that means they get paid even though their crops
failed.

Meanwhile the rest of the people who live next to this river don't end
up living next to a dry river bed. This is the way the Federal farm and
water management policies have worked for at least 70 years in the US so
there is nothing particularly new about any of this. Nor is it anything
unique to California.

-jim

z0n0b wrote:

"jim" "sjedgingN0Sp"@m@mwt,net wrote in message
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z0n0b wrote:



Yeah right, and my name is Donald Duck!

QUOTE: the depression conditions in the great valley reflect more than a
mere water shortage. They are the direct result of conscious actions by
environmental activists to usher in a new era of scarcity.


Well Donald Duck, here is how it works:

Yes, the "new era of scarcity" is here. That would be hard to deny. The
scarcity of water is caused by lack of rain and snow.

CORRECTION: caused by WHACKO greenie policies!

To be more precise, you mean it appears to be "WHACKO greenie policies"
to someone who is ignorant about the subject of water in the Central
Valley.




QUOTE: A recent New York Times article, for example, barely acknowledged the
role played by environmentalists whose move to block additional water
supplies from the Delta have turned a below-average year--moisture content
in the Sierra is about 90% of normal--into something of an epochal
agricultural and human disaster.

Well the people of California can be very thankful that you aren't the
one managing the central valley water supply.

Are you aware that 20% of all the water pumped out of underground
aquifers in the entire United States comes from the aquifers under the
Central California Valley? Did you know that these aquifers are
primarily fed by the rivers that you would like to dry up? If you were
in charge, do you think the millions of Californians that depend on
those aquifers for their water supply are going to be happy when they
turn on their taps and get only a trickle of brown brackish water?

The real problem in California and most of the rest of world is the
lack of sustainable agriculture and lack of other sustainable land use
practices such as clear-cut logging.

The question of CO2 causing climate change may be a debatable subject,
but bad land use practices does cause regional climate change - that has
been proven time and again throughout the history of man. Many of the
world's deserts (if not all) are man made. We live in a world of
scarcity largely created as a result of unsustainable land use
practices.

There are proven methods that can reverse the process of the
degradation of World's soils. It is possible to take desert soils and
make them arable. And it is possible to take marginal land and make them
fertile. Instead of doing that we practice land use that inevitably
turns all soils to desert. When farmers work to improve their soil they
produce more crops with much less water and chemical input. When they
don't, the need for chemicals and water increases over time.

The simple fact is that so called modern land use practices have most
often been of the form that has degraded the worlds soils and that is
really what is responsible for all current scarcity. Food, water,
shelter and energy all could be more abundantly available if the worlds
soils were rich instead of poor. And what ingredient is missing from the
soil that is making it so poor and leading to all this scarcity. One
single element - Carbon. Read about it he

http://www.theoildrum.com/node/4522


-jim