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Disclaimer The projections are based on results from computer models that involve simplifications of real physical processes that are not fully understood. Accordingly, no responsibility will be accepted for the accuracy of the projections inferred from this brochure or for any person's interpretations, deductions, conclusions or actions in reliance on this information. And further: Climate model responses are most uncertain in how they represent feedback effects, particularly those dealing with changes to cloud regimes, biological effects and ocean-atmosphere interactions. The coarse spatial resolution of climate models also remains a limitation on their ability to simulate the details of regional climate change. Future climate change will also be influenced by other, largely unpredictable, factors such as changes in solar radiation, volcanic eruptions and chaotic variations within the climate system itself. Rapid climate change, or a step-like climate response to the enhanced greenhouse effect, is possible but its likelihood cannot be defined. Because changes outside the ranges given here cannot be ruled out, these projections should be considered with caution. |||| Here we have one of the Robo-Liar Bonzo's favourite pieces of copy and paste. Like all brazen liars he doesn't think sourcing your stuff is important. Sourcing your quotes means that people get to consider their contemporary relevance. This one here seems to be from one source but actually it's composed of at least two sources. 1. The CSIRO (Australia) The projections are based on results from computer models that involve simplifications of real physical processes that are not fully understood. Accordingly, no responsibility will be accepted for the accuracy of the projections inferred from this brochure or for any person's interpretations, deductions, conclusions or actions in reliance on this information. |||| The CSIRO was and is the lead scientific body in Australia. It is however a creature of government and accordingly must act in a way that avoids creating legal liability for government. Just as governments routinely deny that chemicals such as Agent Orange caused harm to servicemen, so too they will fight tooth and nail to avoid admitting anything that causes potential liability. Worse still at the time this disclaimer was contrived (1998) the then government was actively whiteanting action on Kyoto. Since that time, the government has changed and has now ratified Kyoto. It's telling that Bonzo edits out the CSIRO in 1998 to turn this into an all-purpose and all-time disclaimer. John Howard's agenda is apparently to speak (at least in Bonzo's 'mind') for all other organisations forever -- and readers aren't supposed to be aware that this was what it was. This one actually comes from a complex of reports -- one of which was this: Climate Change Under Enhanced Greenhouse Conditions In Northern Australia http://www.nt.gov.au/nreta/environme...al.html#Introd... Here's the proper text: ||| This report relates to climate simulations based on computer modelling. Models involve simplifications of real physical processes that are not fully understood. Accordingly, no responsibility will be accepted by CSIRO or the clients (the Northern Territory Department of Lands, Planning and Environment; Queensland Department of Primary Industries; Department of Natural Resources; and the Western Australian Department of Environmental Protection) for the accuracy of forecasts or predictions inferred from this report or for any person's interpretations, deductions, conclusions or actions in reliance of this report. ||| But this would not have been what Bonzo wanted so he cherry-picked it. And further: Climate model responses are most uncertain in how they represent feedback effects, particularly those dealing with changes to cloud regimes, biological effects and ocean-atmosphere interactions. The coarse spatial resolution of climate models also remains a limitation on their ability to simulate the details of regional climate change. Future climate change will also be influenced by other, largely unpredictable, factors such as changes in solar radiation, volcanic eruptions and chaotic variations within the climate system itself. Rapid climate change, or a step-like climate response to the enhanced greenhouse effect, is possible but its likelihood cannot be defined. Because changes outside the ranges given here cannot be ruled out, these projections should be considered with caution. This one came from Dr Peter Whetton, again from the CSIRO ||| Uncertainties about future human behaviour and shortcomings in climate modelling limit our climate change projections to ranges of change for some variables, and qualified statements on possible changes for others. Uncertainties have been quantified where possible, accounting for future greenhouse gas emissions and model to model differences in simulating both global and regional climate responses. Greenhouse gas emissions are subject to uncertainties concerning population growth, technological change and social and political behaviour. Climate model responses are most uncertain in how they represent feedback effects, particularly those dealing with changes to cloud regimes, biological effects and ocean-atmosphere interactions. The coarse spatial resolution of climate models also remains a limitation on their ability to simulate the details of regional climate change. Future climate change will also be influenced by other, largely unpredictable, factors such as changes in solar radiation, volcanic eruptions and chaotic variations within the climate system itself. Rapid climate change, or a step-like climate response to the enhanced greenhouse effect, is possible but its likelihood cannot be defined. Because changes outside the ranges given here cannot be ruled out, these projections should be considered with caution http://www.regional.org.au/au/apen/2...03.htm?print=1 ||| This is a perfectly reasonable cautionary statement. Taken in context one cannot object. It's not a backpedal on climate change or the force of the AGW-hypothesis at all. IIRC there's a passage in IPCC 2001a that is fairly similar. It specifically notes that the behaviour of humans and government policy in the period being modelled affects the predictive power of the model. Bonzo excises all this and begins at Climate models because the other part is at odds with the point that he wants to make - that one can't trust climate models. He can't or won't give the reference because then people would see him cherry-picking to make his case. Dr Whetton would be appalled to find that this claim was being adduced to deny the integrity of climate change modelling. Fran |
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