http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/8383713.stm

Inquiry into stolen climate e-mails
By Roger Harrabin Environment analyst, BBC News

Details of a university inquiry into e-mails stolen from scientists at one of the UK's
leading climate research units are likely to be made public next week.

Announcement of a chair of the inquiry and terms of reference will probably be made on
Monday, a source says.

The University of East Anglia's (UEA) press office did not confirm the date.

But a spokesperson said information about the investigation into the hack at UEA's Climatic
Research Unit (CRU) would be made public very soon.

Scientists will be scrutinising the choice of chair and the terms of reference.

One senior climate scientist told me that the chair would have to be a person accepted by
both mainstream climate scientists and sceptics as a highly respected figure without strong
connections to either group.

BBC News understands that senior individuals at UEA have acknowledged the potential damage to
the university's reputation from the CRU affair and are anxious to clear the institution's name.

But there is a risk that some people will not accept the findings of any inquiry unless it is
fully independent, as demanded by the former UK Chancellor Lord Lawson earlier in the week.

A petition is running on the 10 Downing Street website calling for CRU to be suspended from
preparation of any government climate statistics until the allegations have been fully
investigated.

Some researchers would not comment until they had seen UEA's nominated chairman and terms of
reference.

But Professor Sir John Houghton, chair of the IPCC's first science panel, said he would not
support an inquiry as many of those demanding one were biased.

Phil Willis MP said the House of Commons Science and Technology Select Committee - of which
he is chair - had written to UEA asking for copies of the e-mails and an explanation. Depending on
the response, the committee will decide whether to proceed further.

Professor Sir David King, the former government chief scientist, told BBC News there are
three key issues:

a.. how did the leakage occur - was there any payment in the process?
b.. the alleged behaviour of the scientists indicated by the e-mails
c.. does this have any impact on the scientific conclusion?

If an independent inquiry encompassed all three aspects, Professor Sir David said he would
support it.

I hope the revelations destroy a few AGW careers, they are built on a
sham, after all.

On Fri, 27 Nov 2009 12:11:21 -0800, Eric Gisin wrote:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/8383713.stm

Inquiry into stolen climate e-mails
By Roger Harrabin Environment analyst, BBC News

Details of a university inquiry into e-mails stolen from
scientists at one of the UK's
leading climate research units are likely to be made public next week.

Announcement of a chair of the inquiry and terms of reference will
probably be made on
Monday, a source says.

The University of East Anglia's (UEA) press office did not confirm
the date.

But a spokesperson said information about the investigation into
the hack at UEA's Climatic
Research Unit (CRU) would be made public very soon.

Scientists will be scrutinising the choice of chair and the terms
of reference.

One senior climate scientist told me that the chair would have to
be a person accepted by
both mainstream climate scientists and sceptics as a highly respected
figure without strong connections to either group.

BBC News understands that senior individuals at UEA have
acknowledged the potential damage to
the university's reputation from the CRU affair and are anxious to clear
the institution's name.

Potential? And why clear the name of a pack of global frauds and liars?
The "Senior Individuals at UEA" seem to have not gotten the memo that
they've been exposed as damn frauds, or that they allowed their
institution's name to be defamed by a pack of lying frauds perpetrating a
world wide scam against the whole human race.

Don't they get that they're at the epicenter of the greatest abuse of
science in all of human history?!

"University of East Anglia" will by synonymous with fraud science, lies
and the abuse of "science" to make life worse for the entire human race
for a few Pounds.

But there is a risk that some people will not accept the findings
of any inquiry unless it is
fully independent, as demanded by the former UK Chancellor Lord Lawson
earlier in the week.

A petition is running on the 10 Downing Street website calling for
CRU to be suspended from
preparation of any government climate statistics until the allegations
have been fully investigated.

An obvious first step.

Some researchers would not comment until they had seen UEA's
nominated chairman and terms of
reference.

That's wise. The fraud is so prevalent, you need to check to see if those
who would replace Jones aren't just throwing Jones under the bus and
appointing another fraud.

But Professor Sir John Houghton, chair of the IPCC's first science
panel, said he would not
support an inquiry as many of those demanding one were biased.

Phil Willis MP said the House of Commons Science and Technology
Select Committee - of which
he is chair - had written to UEA asking for copies of the e-mails and an
explanation. Depending on the response, the committee will decide
whether to proceed further.

Professor Sir David King, the former government chief scientist,
told BBC News there are
three key issues:

a.. how did the leakage occur - was there any payment in the
process? b.. the alleged behaviour of the scientists indicated
by the e-mails c.. does this have any impact on the scientific
conclusion?

If an independent inquiry encompassed all three aspects, Professor
Sir David said he would
support it.

Three points about "Professor Sir" David King:
a) Sounds like Sir David is on a witch hunt to find the people who
exposed the greatest scientific fraud in human history.
b) If he doesn't understand the anti-science fraud revealed in the
papers, then he shouldn't be commenting on it.
c) Oh duh. From where did "Professor Sir" King get his scientific
education? Was he a pupil of Homer Simpson?

I donno. Maybe Professor Sir David is trying to be funny. I don't get the
whole Monty Python thing.

Science has been twisted into a huge DISSERVICE of humanity. This is a
crime on a global scale, with conspirators all over the world. And the So
called "university" of East Anglia was one of the nest of frauds.

"Eric Gisin" wrote in message
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/8383713.stm

Inquiry into stolen climate e-mails
By Roger Harrabin Environment analyst, BBC News

Details of a university inquiry into e-mails stolen from scientists
at one of the UK's
leading climate research units are likely to be made public next week.

Announcement of a chair of the inquiry and terms of reference will
probably be made on
Monday, a source says.

The University of East Anglia's (UEA) press office did not confirm
the date.

But a spokesperson said information about the investigation into the
hack at UEA's Climatic
Research Unit (CRU) would be made public very soon.

Scientists will be scrutinising the choice of chair and the terms of
reference.

One senior climate scientist told me that the chair would have to be
a person accepted by
both mainstream climate scientists and sceptics as a highly respected
figure without strong
connections to either group.

BBC News understands that senior individuals at UEA have acknowledged
the potential damage to
the university's reputation from the CRU affair and are anxious to clear
the institution's name.

But there is a risk that some people will not accept the findings of
any inquiry unless it is
fully independent, as demanded by the former UK Chancellor Lord Lawson
earlier in the week.

A petition is running on the 10 Downing Street website calling for
CRU to be suspended from
preparation of any government climate statistics until the allegations
have been fully
investigated.

Some researchers would not comment until they had seen UEA's
nominated chairman and terms of
reference.

But Professor Sir John Houghton, chair of the IPCC's first science
panel, said he would not
support an inquiry as many of those demanding one were biased.

Phil Willis MP said the House of Commons Science and Technology
Select Committee - of which
he is chair - had written to UEA asking for copies of the e-mails and an
explanation. Depending on
the response, the committee will decide whether to proceed further.

Professor Sir David King, the former government chief scientist, told
BBC News there are
three key issues:

a.. how did the leakage occur - was there any payment in the
process?
b.. the alleged behaviour of the scientists indicated by the
e-mails
c.. does this have any impact on the scientific conclusion?

If an independent inquiry encompassed all three aspects, Professor
Sir David said he would
support it.



King nailed it. The question is not if something illegal happened, the
question is, is the emails an accurate reflection of what some climate
scientist are doing to promote their theory.

On Fri, 27 Nov 2009 15:06:41 -0800 (PST), "$27 TRILLION to pay for
Kyoto" wrote:

I hope the revelations destroy a few AGW careers, they are built on a
sham, after all.

Anybody that can prove violation of their civil rights
to publish might be able to sue.

Tricks with numbers is not as bad as conspiracy to
violate rights.

On Sat, 28 Nov 2009 10:42:48 -0600, Marvin the Martian
wrote:

On Fri, 27 Nov 2009 12:11:21 -0800, Eric Gisin wrote:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/8383713.stm

Inquiry into stolen climate e-mails
By Roger Harrabin Environment analyst, BBC News

Details of a university inquiry into e-mails stolen from
scientists at one of the UK's
leading climate research units are likely to be made public next week.

[snip]

Science has been twisted into a huge DISSERVICE of humanity. This is a
crime on a global scale, with conspirators all over the world. And the So
called "university" of East Anglia was one of the nest of frauds.


There are not many witting conspirators, there
are a lot of gullible souls, even too good and honorable
to even consider that people in high office would stoop
so low as to even cheat, let alone conspire together.

But the vigor with which the whole bunch promote
this junk is what is unbelievable, Al Gore with quivering
voice, and Sam with hysterical urgency, etc.

US farmers are actually worrying about surpluses
of food in the coming years, and surpluses drive the
price down and costs a lot for storage.
And the climate journalists who wouldn't know
a soybean from a tomato write about CO2 causing
world-wide crop failures.

Food is not the issue of the future, it is equity,
funding, economic activity and stability, and budgets.

Government needs the money from any taxes it
can collect, and collecting from energy companies
may be the easiest of all sources of funding.

With my new stove I used less than half as
many kilowatt hours last month than for the same
period last year, the last 3 weeks was 4 degrees
warmer than a year ago, but wait till next month,
I will reduce my heated space even more.