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By STEPHEN POWER

WASHINGTON - President Barack Obama's top science adviser urged lawmakers to act to curb emissions
of greenhouse gases, despite the uproar over emails in which some prominent climate scientists
appeared to advocate squelching the views of researchers skeptical that human activity is driving a
dangerous rise in global temperatures.

The adviser, John Holdren, said scientists generally are capable of defensiveness, bias and
"misbehavior." But he said the meaning of some of the statements in the emails isn't clear, and
that the significance of others has been exaggerated.
Human activity is "beyond any reasonable doubt" the primary cause of warming temperatures, Mr.
Holdren said.

Mr. Holdren's comments drew a unanimously supportive response from Democrats and unanimous
skepticism from Republicans, some of whom called for a congressional inquiry into the dispute over
the integrity of climate science.

Proposed legislation that would impose caps on U.S. emissions of carbon dioxide and other gases
linked to climate change is stalled in the Senate, where Democratic leaders have said they don't
plan to act on the measure until next spring. The proposal would require businesses to buy
pollution permits and set up a system to trade those emissions rights.

The bill's future is uncertain because of strong opposition from Republicans and many Democrats.
Mr. Obama has said he will offer to commit the U.S. to cutting overall greenhouse-gas emissions
when he stops at the United Nations climate summit in Copenhagen next week. But Mr. Obama can't
deliver on that promise without congressional approval.

The hearing by the House Select Committee on Energy Independence and Global Warming at times
resembled a science lecture, with an administration official pouring frozen carbon dioxide into a
glass of water to demonstrate how carbon dioxide acidifies the world's oceans.

Supporters of emissions caps said the controversy over the behavior of prominent climate
researchers doesn't undercut the scientific rationale for action. Meanwhile, opponents of such caps
said the foundations of the case for man-made global warming are in question because of the
disclosures from thousands of emails from the University of East Anglia's Climate Research Unit.
The emails suggest that prominent climate researchers sought to disguise certain discrepancies in
their data showing a trend of rising global temperatures and attack those who disagreed with their
views.

"However this controversy comes out, the result will not call into question the bulk of our
understanding of how the climate works or how humans affect it," said Mr. Holdren, director of the
Office of Science and Technology Policy. He agreed it is important to "get to the bottom of" the
emails' meaning, but emphasized that the vast majority of scientists who have studied climate
change agree that failure to act promptly to curb emissions of heat-trapping gases is
"overwhelmingly likely" to lead to extreme and damaging impacts on the planet.

His comments were challenged by Rep. James Sensenbrenner, a Wisconsin Republican who said the
emails "at worst" suggest "a massive scientific international fraud."

"We're being asked as a Congress to make major changes in American society in energy use," he said.
"The scientists may be able to change their story and do more research, but once Congress passes a
law, it will be as difficult to undo the consequences of that law as putting milk back in the cow."

Lawmakers supportive of capping emissions suggested that Republicans were latching onto the emails
as a way of deflecting attention from evidence that human activity is damaging the planet.

The panel's chairman, Rep. Edward Markey (D., Mass.), cited a 2001 reported by the National Academy
of Sciences - a study requested by then-President George W. Bush - that said "global warming could
well have serious adverse societal and ecological impacts by the end of the century."

The hearing at times focused on data showing that the Earth has cooled in recent years.

Mr. Holdren and Jane Lubchenco, administrator of the National Oceanic and Atmospheric
Administration, said such temperature dips were natural fluctuations. The 10 warmest years recorded
since 1880 have all occurred within the past 12 years, they said. They added that the U.S. average
temperature has risen more than two degrees Fahrenheit over the past 50 years and is projected to
rise more.

Rep. Candice Miller (R., Mich.) said she was persuaded that temperatures are rising, but expressed
uncertainty over whether such changes can be blamed primarily on human activity. She said the
emails from the British lab showed that "anyone who questions the ideology.that man is creating all
this" is immediately derided as someone indifferent to the fate of the world.

"These emails are an embarrassment on the brink of Copenhagen," she said.

Wednesday's hearing came a day after Phil Jones, a British scientist at the heart of the email
controversy, temporarily stepped down as director of the Climate Research Unit amid an internal
probe.

In a joint letter Wednesday, four Republican lawmakers urged the Environmental Protection Agency to
withdraw its proposed finding that greenhouse-gas emissions from vehicles endanger human health,
saying that the hacked emails raise questions about the science behind the Intergovernmental Panel
on Climate Change reports that form the basis for the EPA ruling.

The four lawmakers, two congressmen and two senators, urged the EPA to withdraw the proposed
endangerment finding "until the agency can demonstrate the science underlying these regulatory
decisions has not been compromised." The EPA didn't immediately respond to a request for comment.

-Keith Johnson contributed to this article.
Write to Stephen Power at

Somebody should hack into Holdren's and EPA's emails.


Eric Gisin wrote:
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1259...10373065.html?

By STEPHEN POWER

WASHINGTON - President Barack Obama's top science adviser urged
lawmakers to act to curb emissions of greenhouse gases, despite the
uproar over emails in which some prominent climate scientists
appeared to advocate squelching the views of researchers skeptical
that human activity is driving a dangerous rise in global
temperatures.

The adviser, John Holdren, said scientists generally are capable of
defensiveness, bias and "misbehavior." But he said the meaning of
some of the statements in the emails isn't clear, and that the
significance of others has been exaggerated.
Human activity is "beyond any reasonable doubt" the primary cause of
warming temperatures, Mr. Holdren said.

Mr. Holdren's comments drew a unanimously supportive response from
Democrats and unanimous skepticism from Republicans, some of whom
called for a congressional inquiry into the dispute over the
integrity of climate science.

Proposed legislation that would impose caps on U.S. emissions of
carbon dioxide and other gases linked to climate change is stalled in
the Senate, where Democratic leaders have said they don't plan to act
on the measure until next spring. The proposal would require
businesses to buy pollution permits and set up a system to trade
those emissions rights.

The bill's future is uncertain because of strong opposition from
Republicans and many Democrats. Mr. Obama has said he will offer to
commit the U.S. to cutting overall greenhouse-gas emissions when he
stops at the United Nations climate summit in Copenhagen next week.
But Mr. Obama can't deliver on that promise without congressional
approval.

The hearing by the House Select Committee on Energy Independence and
Global Warming at times resembled a science lecture, with an
administration official pouring frozen carbon dioxide into a glass of
water to demonstrate how carbon dioxide acidifies the world's oceans.

Supporters of emissions caps said the controversy over the behavior
of prominent climate researchers doesn't undercut the scientific
rationale for action. Meanwhile, opponents of such caps said the
foundations of the case for man-made global warming are in question
because of the disclosures from thousands of emails from the
University of East Anglia's Climate Research Unit. The emails suggest
that prominent climate researchers sought to disguise certain
discrepancies in their data showing a trend of rising global
temperatures and attack those who disagreed with their views.

"However this controversy comes out, the result will not call into
question the bulk of our understanding of how the climate works or
how humans affect it," said Mr. Holdren, director of the Office of
Science and Technology Policy. He agreed it is important to "get to
the bottom of" the emails' meaning, but emphasized that the vast
majority of scientists who have studied climate change agree that
failure to act promptly to curb emissions of heat-trapping gases is
"overwhelmingly likely" to lead to extreme and damaging impacts on
the planet.

His comments were challenged by Rep. James Sensenbrenner, a Wisconsin
Republican who said the emails "at worst" suggest "a massive
scientific international fraud."

"We're being asked as a Congress to make major changes in American
society in energy use," he said. "The scientists may be able to
change their story and do more research, but once Congress passes a
law, it will be as difficult to undo the consequences of that law as
putting milk back in the cow."

Lawmakers supportive of capping emissions suggested that Republicans
were latching onto the emails as a way of deflecting attention from
evidence that human activity is damaging the planet.

The panel's chairman, Rep. Edward Markey (D., Mass.), cited a 2001
reported by the National Academy of Sciences - a study requested by
then-President George W. Bush - that said "global warming could well
have serious adverse societal and ecological impacts by the end of
the century."

The hearing at times focused on data showing that the Earth has
cooled in recent years.

Mr. Holdren and Jane Lubchenco, administrator of the National Oceanic
and Atmospheric Administration, said such temperature dips were
natural fluctuations. The 10 warmest years recorded since 1880 have
all occurred within the past 12 years, they said. They added that the
U.S. average temperature has risen more than two degrees Fahrenheit
over the past 50 years and is projected to rise more.

Rep. Candice Miller (R., Mich.) said she was persuaded that
temperatures are rising, but expressed uncertainty over whether such
changes can be blamed primarily on human activity. She said the
emails from the British lab showed that "anyone who questions the
ideology.that man is creating all this" is immediately derided as
someone indifferent to the fate of the world.

"These emails are an embarrassment on the brink of Copenhagen," she
said.

Wednesday's hearing came a day after Phil Jones, a British scientist
at the heart of the email controversy, temporarily stepped down as
director of the Climate Research Unit amid an internal probe.

In a joint letter Wednesday, four Republican lawmakers urged the
Environmental Protection Agency to withdraw its proposed finding that
greenhouse-gas emissions from vehicles endanger human health, saying
that the hacked emails raise questions about the science behind the
Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change reports that form the basis
for the EPA ruling.

The four lawmakers, two congressmen and two senators, urged the EPA
to withdraw the proposed endangerment finding "until the agency can
demonstrate the science underlying these regulatory decisions has not
been compromised." The EPA didn't immediately respond to a request
for comment.

-Keith Johnson contributed to this article.
Write to Stephen Power at

On Dec 2, 3:13*pm, "James" wrote:" Somebody
should hack into Holdren's and EPA's emails."

yeah it fits that you are too lazy and chicken to try it yourself, and
you would rather somebody do it for you...

columbiaaccidentinvestigation wrote:
On Dec 2, 3:13 pm, "James" wrote:" Somebody
should hack into Holdren's and EPA's emails."

yeah it fits that you are too lazy and chicken to try it yourself, and
you would rather somebody do it for you...

You've already been exposed.

On Dec 2, 3:25*pm, "James" wrote:"You've already
been exposed."

let me get this straight, you think your laziness has anything to do
with me, this from a tea partier, dude take responsibility for your
actions, and idiotic words...

columbiaaccidentinvestigation wrote:
On Dec 2, 3:25 pm, "James" wrote:"You've already
been exposed."

let me get this straight, you think your laziness has anything to do
with me, this from a tea partier, dude take responsibility for your
actions, and idiotic words...

You can't dodge it. You've been exposed.

On Dec 2, 4:43*pm, "James" wrote:" You can't
dodge it. You've been exposed."

na, you are just jealous that i nailed you down as a wannabe lobbyist,
who has no clue about invidual responsiblity...

columbiaaccidentinvestigation wrote:
On Dec 2, 4:43 pm, "James" wrote:" You can't
dodge it. You've been exposed."

na, you are just jealous that i nailed you down as a wannabe lobbyist,
who has no clue about invidual responsiblity...
--
HAW HAW HAW HAW

On Dec 2, 5:24*pm, "James" wrote:
columbiaaccidentinvestigation wrote:
On Dec 2, 4:43 pm, "James" wrote:" You can't
dodge it. You've been exposed."

na, you are just jealous that i nailed you down as a wannabe lobbyist,
who has no clue about invidual responsiblity...

--
HAW HAW HAW HAW

so i hit a nerve, like i said i nailed you down....

columbiaaccidentinvestigation wrote:
On Dec 2, 5:24 pm, "James" wrote:
columbiaaccidentinvestigation wrote:
On Dec 2, 4:43 pm, "James" wrote:" You can't
dodge it. You've been exposed."

na, you are just jealous that i nailed you down as a wannabe
lobbyist, who has no clue about invidual responsiblity...

--
HAW HAW HAW HAW

so i hit a nerve, like i said i nailed you down....

What do you mean wannabe.