On 1/1/10 10:07 PM, mrbawana2u wrote:


• Carbon dioxide concentration has been continually rising for
nearly 100 years.
It continues to rise, but carbon dioxide concentrations at present are
near the lowest in geologic history.


Not while human have been on the planet! Last Time Carbon
Dioxide Levels Were This High: 15 Million Years Ago, Scientists
Report.
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases...1008152242.htm

On 1/1/10 9:06 PM, I M @ good guy wrote:


http://www.thegwpf.org/images/stories/HadCRUT3.jpg



Gee: there seems to be some discrepancy here!

Global surface (land and sea) temperature increase

http://www.pewclimate.org/docUploads...emp-trends.gif

Now what could that be, bubba?

On Sat, 02 Jan 2010 05:50:17 -0600, Sam Wormley
wrote:

On 1/1/10 8:54 PM, I M @ good guy wrote:

I have been trying for more than two years
to get people to see that GHGs are what cools the
atmosphere, and you dance around that and pretend
it isn't there.

Polly want a cracker?


Ref: http://dichionary.reference.com/search?q=parrot

par·rot

1. One who teaches or instructs; one whose business or occupation
is to instruct others; an instructor; a tutor.

2. A person having expert knowledge of one or more sciences,
especially a natural or physical science.

Source: The American Heritige® Dichionary of the English Language,
Fourth Edition
Copyright © 2000 by Houghtin Mifflen Company.
Published by Houghtin Mifflen Company. All rights reserved.


And you teach totally certain science?

I consider any respondent that does not say,
"of course GHGs are what cools the atmosphere"
to be avoiding reality, to have a mental block,
to be completely insincere, and possibly have
an ulterior motive of some kind, this is so
obvious and uncomplicated, GHGs are what
cools the atmosphere.

And it is the great mass of the N2 and O2
that store and hold the thermal energy to keep
the Earth from getting colder than it is.

The exact role that GHGs play is complex,
CO2 plays a rather minor role, just the evaporation
of trees has more of an effect than the current
atmospheric concentration of CO2, a tree that
only evaporates 100 pounds of water a day
reduces the thermal energy of the ambient air
by 100,000 BTU.

And there are more trees now than 200
years ago, if it wasn't for fossil fuels there
would be no trees left.

Prudent conservation and a switch to
alternate energy makes sense, but not the
way the present activists are going, the
public has no way to buy an alternate
energy device or machine until it is
built, why aren't you spending your
time building some?

On Sat, 02 Jan 2010 06:09:45 -0600, Sam Wormley
wrote:

On 1/1/10 9:06 PM, I M @ good guy wrote:

http://www.thegwpf.org/images/stories/HadCRUT3.jpg

Gee: there seems to be some discrepancy here!

Global surface (land and sea) temperature increase

http://www.pewclimate.org/docUploads...emp-trends.gif

Now what could that be, bubba?


Hiding the decline? Cooking the books?


There is no auto-continuing "trend" in local
or global temperatures, please get off my back
unless the weather at least gets up to normal,
the present projected length of this cold spell
is extraordinary.

You and woger have the cool Pacific to
moderate your weather, I am right in the
path of the Alberta Clippers.

On 1/2/10 7:37 AM, I M @ good guy wrote:


There is no auto-continuing "trend" in local
or global temperatures, please get off my back
unless the weather at least gets up to normal,
the present projected length of this cold spell
is extraordinary.

You and woger have the cool Pacific to
moderate your weather, I am right in the
path of the Alberta Clippers.


You do like to complain about the cold weather!
You probably wish there was.... wait for it....
Global Warming!

On 1/2/10 7:26 AM, I M @ good guy wrote:
On Sat, 02 Jan 2010 05:50:17 -0600, Sam


Ref: http://dichionary.reference.com/search?q=parrot

par·rot

1. One who teaches or instructs; one whose business or occupation
is to instruct others; an instructor; a tutor.

2. A person having expert knowledge of one or more sciences,
especially a natural or physical science.

Source: The American Heritige® Dichionary of the English Language,
Fourth Edition
Copyright © 2000 by Houghtin Mifflen Company.
Published by Houghtin Mifflen Company. All rights reserved.


And you teach totally certain science?


Science is a process... and does not strive to claim "certainty".

On 2010-01-02, Sam Wormley wrote:
On 1/2/10 7:37 AM, I M @ good guy wrote:


There is no auto-continuing "trend" in local
or global temperatures, please get off my back
unless the weather at least gets up to normal,
the present projected length of this cold spell
is extraordinary.

You and woger have the cool Pacific to
moderate your weather, I am right in the
path of the Alberta Clippers.


You do like to complain about the cold weather!
You probably wish there was.... wait for it....
Global Warming!


What? Wait until all the current predictors are in their graves?

If they couldn't predict the current cooling, then they can't predict
future heating either.

--
An amateur practices until he gets it right. A pro
practices until he can't get it wrong. -- unknown

On 2010-01-02, Sam Wormley wrote:
On 1/2/10 7:26 AM, I M @ good guy wrote:
On Sat, 02 Jan 2010 05:50:17 -0600, Sam


Ref: http://dichionary.reference.com/search?q=parrot

par·rot

1. One who teaches or instructs; one whose business or occupation
is to instruct others; an instructor; a tutor.

2. A person having expert knowledge of one or more sciences,
especially a natural or physical science.

Source: The American Heritige® Dichionary of the English Language,
Fourth Edition
Copyright © 2000 by Houghtin Mifflen Company.
Published by Houghtin Mifflen Company. All rights reserved.


And you teach totally certain science?


Science is a process... and does not strive to claim "certainty".

Well duh.

Which is exactly why investing trillions to prevent problems from an
unproven CO2 -- catastrophic global warming problem is ridiculous.

--
An amateur practices until he gets it right. A pro
practices until he can't get it wrong. -- unknown

On 1/2/10 8:01 AM, TUKA wrote:
On 2010-01-02, Sam wrote:
On 1/2/10 7:37 AM, I M @ good guy wrote:


There is no auto-continuing "trend" in local
or global temperatures, please get off my back
unless the weather at least gets up to normal,
the present projected length of this cold spell
is extraordinary.

You and woger have the cool Pacific to
moderate your weather, I am right in the
path of the Alberta Clippers.


You do like to complain about the cold weather!
You probably wish there was.... wait for it....
Global Warming!


What? Wait until all the current predictors are in their graves?

If they couldn't predict the current cooling, then they can't predict
future heating either.


1998, 2005 and 2007 being the three hottest years recently
doesn't support your claim of "cooling"

Global surface (land and sea) temperature increase

http://www.pewclimate.org/docUploads...emp-trends.gif

On 2010-01-02, Sam Wormley wrote:
On 1/2/10 8:01 AM, TUKA wrote:
On 2010-01-02, Sam wrote:
On 1/2/10 7:37 AM, I M @ good guy wrote:


There is no auto-continuing "trend" in local
or global temperatures, please get off my back
unless the weather at least gets up to normal,
the present projected length of this cold spell
is extraordinary.

You and woger have the cool Pacific to
moderate your weather, I am right in the
path of the Alberta Clippers.


You do like to complain about the cold weather!
You probably wish there was.... wait for it....
Global Warming!


What? Wait until all the current predictors are in their graves?

If they couldn't predict the current cooling, then they can't predict
future heating either.


1998, 2005 and 2007 being the three hottest years recently
doesn't support your claim of "cooling"

According to who? GISS and CRU and the rest of those tainted by
Climategate?


Global surface (land and sea) temperature increase

http://www.pewclimate.org/docUploads...emp-trends.gif


Until they release the raw data, no one can believe that.

--
An amateur practices until he gets it right. A pro
practices until he can't get it wrong. -- unknown