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On 12/27/09 11:21 PM, Bill Ward wrote:
On Sun, 27 Dec 2009 15:59:51 -0600, Sam Wormley wrote: Global surface (land and sea) temperature increase http://www.pewclimate.org/docUploads...emp-trends.gif That graph ends in 2005. Bill--Don't read this article... It's just alarmist bull****, right? http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/h...ow/5406955.cms |
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On Sun, 03 Jan 2010 09:51:56 -0600, Sam Wormley
wrote: On 12/27/09 11:21 PM, Bill Ward wrote: On Sun, 27 Dec 2009 15:59:51 -0600, Sam Wormley wrote: Global surface (land and sea) temperature increase http://www.pewclimate.org/docUploads...emp-trends.gif That graph ends in 2005. Bill--Don't read this article... It's just alarmist bull****, right? http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/h...ow/5406955.cms The statement that CO2 is the main GHG "warming the atmosphere" is the dumbest thing ever written, simply because GHGs cool the atmosphere, and water is a far better GHG, and water exists in concentrations many times more than CO2. And you have a degree in physics? |
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On 1/3/10 10:19 AM, I M @ good guy wrote:
On Sun, 03 Jan 2010 09:51:56 -0600, Sam wrote: On 12/27/09 11:21 PM, Bill Ward wrote: On Sun, 27 Dec 2009 15:59:51 -0600, Sam Wormley wrote: Global surface (land and sea) temperature increase http://www.pewclimate.org/docUploads...emp-trends.gif That graph ends in 2005. Bill--Don't read this article... It's just alarmist bull****, right? http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/h...ow/5406955.cms The statement that CO2 is the main GHG "warming the atmosphere" is the dumbest thing ever written, simply because GHGs cool the atmosphere, and water is a far better GHG, and water exists in concentrations many times more than CO2. And you have a degree in physics? Most are not in agreement with you, as the data indicate that CO2 is the major driver in this instance. |
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On Sun, 03 Jan 2010 10:24:18 -0600, Sam Wormley
wrote: On 1/3/10 10:19 AM, I M @ good guy wrote: On Sun, 03 Jan 2010 09:51:56 -0600, Sam wrote: On 12/27/09 11:21 PM, Bill Ward wrote: On Sun, 27 Dec 2009 15:59:51 -0600, Sam Wormley wrote: Global surface (land and sea) temperature increase http://www.pewclimate.org/docUploads...emp-trends.gif That graph ends in 2005. Bill--Don't read this article... It's just alarmist bull****, right? http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/h...ow/5406955.cms The statement that CO2 is the main GHG "warming the atmosphere" is the dumbest thing ever written, simply because GHGs cool the atmosphere, and water is a far better GHG, and water exists in concentrations many times more than CO2. And you have a degree in physics? Most are not in agreement with you, Can't you be more specific, just what could they possibly disagree with, certainly not the obvious FACT that Infra-Red radiation by GHGs is what cools the atmosphere? http://groups.google.com/group/alt.g...5b2e42f08493ad http://groups.google.com/group/alt.g...44de81066bb738 Did you forget what GHGs do? "Radiate" ! "Radiate Infra-Red" ! Radiate energy to space. What cools the atmosphere, answer: the same thing that cools the surface, IR radiation to space, and what radiates Infra-Red that are gases in the atmosphere? Look at everything from both sides, consider every possibility, neglecting possible advances in understanding holds back progress. as the data indicate that CO2 is the major driver in this instance. Doing what? Cooling the atmosphere? Do you realize it would be blasphemy in the church of Anthropogenic Global Warming if you said CO2 cools the atmosphere? Ok, I searched gagale and bingo, and found almost nothing on the science of Infra-Red radiation to space by GreenHouse Gases, so I am ready to admit, I am the only person on Earth that understands that GHGs do 99 percent of the cooling of the atmosphere, and LWIR from the surface cools the part of the surface that is not cooled by water evaporating, and wind and convection. What sorry sack the climate industry is, unable to simply provide the basic mechanism that cools the atmosphere. Obviously outhouse rumors, gossip, and parroting of literature has replaced science in the climate industry. I repeat, I challenge anybody to proffer any process or mechanism that cools the atmosphere as it is warmed by the sun, radiation from and contact with the surface. |
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