On Feb 8, 4:46*am, "Cwatters"
wrote:

That's right. The glaciers also took a vote and the majority decided to
melt. The photographers took a vote and agreed to fake lots of photos of
melting glaciers.

I guess you didn't get the memo that the ice age has been over for
20,000 years and the glaciers have been melting ever since. However
your lies are that the melting is increasing in modern times due to
man's activities. Since the rate of sea level rise hasn't changed
please take a vote among your friends as to where all that glacier
water is going? Oh I know! The increased population of the earth is
drinking it!

Idiot.

On Feb 8, 11:17*am, Mike Jr wrote:

Glaciers have been melting since the end of the last ice age. *Why
don't you command them to stop? *Surely they will listen to your moral
authority.

--Mike Jr.

No. No. Wait! I've got it! We tax the daylights out of everything and
use the money to get people to constantly bounce basketballs to stop
Anthropogenic Glacial Melting (AGM)! Sure, that'll work. Algore said
so!

On Feb 9, 12:33*pm, "Cwatters"
wrote:
"Mike Jr" wrote in message

Glaciers have been melting since the end of the last ice age.

but not at current rates or they would have been gone long ago.

Here's a hint SeaWaters. Statistics means a variation. Average rate
is not when you take the biggest number you ever measured and use it
as if it existed for all time. Truth is glaciers used to be melting
MUCH faster and have slowed down a LOT! Hint, just look at ocean
level data.

These being science groups it helps if you actually understand science
a bit before spewing your political propaganda.

Moron.

On Sun, 07 Feb 2010 19:25:10 -0600, Sam Wormley wrote:

On 2/7/10 6:10 PM, Just A Guy wrote:
“The Science is Scuttled� – NASA climate...

NOAA Climate Monitoring
http://lwf.ncdc.noaa.gov/climate-monitoring/index.php

NASA - Global Climate Change
http://climate.nasa.gov/

U.S. Global Change Research Program
http://www.globalchange.gov/

It doesn't bother you one damned bit that NASA has been CAUGHT RED HANDED
moving data collection stations south and eliminating some of them
entirely in order to doctor the data, does it? You'll just keep bald
faced repeating their idiot lies over and over and try to big lie you way
out of this.

Damn, You have no interest in the truth at all!

On Mon, 08 Feb 2010 09:46:01 +0000, Cwatters wrote:

"Benj" wrote in message
news:99c4e18c-e4ab-47bd-ae9d-
...
On Feb 7, 11:38 pm, Sam Wormley wrote:

--Mike Jr.

Seems unlikely that they are all wrong and you are right, Mike!

Right. Hey listen to the Worm, Mike. He'll set you straight that proof
in science has to do with majority vote.

That's right. The glaciers also took a vote and the majority decided to
melt. The photographers took a vote and agreed to fake lots of photos of
melting glaciers.

Ice age ended 25,000 years ago. It is stupid to presume that the first
24,900 years was due to natural causes, but the last 100 years is now
"man made".

This is the same ruse that Columbus used to fool the Indians into feeding
him. He had an almanac that predicted a lunar eclipse. The Indians saw
the moon start going dark, and believed Columbus. Only with THIS melting
glacier lie, the melting started thousands of years ago!

Even if your silly "glaciers are melting" argument DID prove warming (and
it does not... ice melts at a variety of temperatures above 0 C, even if
the temperature stays the same or even cools) your argument would then be
a post hoc fallacy. Warming alone does NOT prove warming is caused by
CO2, or that we put the CO2 in the atmosphere, or that warming is bad.

On Tue, 09 Feb 2010 17:33:02 +0000, Cwatters wrote:

"Mike Jr" wrote in message
news:50c7f5c9-ffc4-4314-88d9-
...
On Feb 8, 4:46 am, "Cwatters"
wrote:
"Benj" wrote in message

news:99c4e18c-e4ab-47bd-ae9d-
...
On Feb 7, 11:38 pm, Sam Wormley wrote:

--Mike Jr.

Seems unlikely that they are all wrong and you are right, Mike!
Right. Hey listen to the Worm, Mike. He'll set you straight that proof
in science has to do with majority vote.

That's right. The glaciers also took a vote and the majority decided to
melt. The photographers took a vote and agreed to fake lots of photos
of melting glaciers.

Glaciers have been melting since the end of the last ice age.

but not at current rates or they would have been gone long ago.

Hello! Most of the glaciers are long since gone. GEESH! Most of North
America was covered with glaciers.

On 2/9/10 7:01 PM, Marvin the Martian wrote:
took a vote and agreed to fake lots of photos of


Ice age ended 25,000 years ago. It is stupid to presume that the first
24,900 years was due to natural causes, but the last 100 years is now
"man made".


It is the rapid and increasing rate of warming in the last decades
that is troublesome.

Recent changes in a remote Arctic lake are unique within the past
200,000 years
http://www.pnas.org/content/early/2009/10/16/0907094106

Yarrow Axforda,1, Jason P. Brinerb, Colin A. Cookec, Donna R. Francisd,
Neal Micheluttie, Gifford H. Millera,f, John P. Smole, Elizabeth K.
Thomasb, Cheryl R. Wilsone and Alexander P. Wolfec
+ Author Affiliations

aInstitute of Arctic and Alpine Research and
fDepartment of Geological Sciences, University of Colorado, Boulder, CO
80309;
bGeology Department, University at Buffalo, Buffalo, NY 14260;
cDepartment of Earth and Atmospheric Sciences, University of Alberta,
Edmonton, AB, Canada T6G 2E3;
dDepartment of Geosciences, University of Massachusetts, Amherst, MA
01003; and
ePaleoecological Environmental Assessment and Research Laboratory,
Department of Biology, Queen's University, Kingston, ON, Canada K7L 3N6
Edited by Mark Brenner, University of Florida, Gainesville, FL, and
accepted by the Editorial Board September 1, 2009 (received for review
June 25, 2009)

Abstract

The Arctic is currently undergoing dramatic environmental
transformations, but it remains largely unknown how these changes
compare with long-term natural variability. Here we present a lake
sediment sequence from the Canadian Arctic that records warm periods of
the past 200,000 years, including the 20th century. This record provides
a perspective on recent changes in the Arctic and predates by
approximately 80,000 years the oldest stratigraphically intact ice core
recovered from the Greenland Ice Sheet. The early Holocene and the
warmest part of the Last Interglacial (Marine Isotope Stage or MIS 5e)
were the only periods of the past 200,000 years with summer temperatures
comparable to or exceeding today's at this site. Paleoecological and
geochemical data indicate that the past three interglacial periods were
characterized by similar trajectories in temperature, lake biology, and
lakewater pH, all of which tracked orbitally-driven solar insolation. In
recent decades, however, the study site has deviated from this recurring
natural pattern and has entered an environmental regime that is unique
within the past 200 millennia.

On 2/9/10 6:57 PM, Marvin the Martian wrote:
On Sun, 07 Feb 2010 19:25:10 -0600, Sam Wormley wrote:

On 2/7/10 6:10 PM, Just A Guy wrote:
“The Science is Scuttled� – NASA climate...

NOAA Climate Monitoring
http://lwf.ncdc.noaa.gov/climate-monitoring/index.php

NASA - Global Climate Change
http://climate.nasa.gov/

U.S. Global Change Research Program
http://www.globalchange.gov/

It doesn't bother you one damned bit that NASA has been CAUGHT RED HANDED
moving data collection stations south and eliminating some of them
entirely in order to doctor the data, does it? You'll just keep bald
faced repeating their idiot lies over and over and try to big lie you way
out of this.

Damn, You have no interest in the truth at all!

I'm betting I've got a lot more interest in the scientific
evidence than you, Marvin.

On Feb 7, 5:25*pm, Sam Wormley wrote:
On 2/7/10 6:10 PM, Just A Guy wrote:

The Science is Scuttled NASA climate...

[snip]
NASA - Global Climate Change
* *http://climate.nasa.gov/

That would be the web site that was being criticized in
the link you snipped. It seems you are sinking into a
deeply pathological mental state when you offer as
denfense against criticism of a web site the very same
web site. With the faked up **** intact.

Have you become totally mentally chomped Sam?
Do they let you run around or do they tie you up?

You are not a scientist Sam. You are not even a
nice human being. Buy a clue.
Socks

On 2/9/10 11:00 PM, Puppet_Sock wrote:
On Feb 7, 5:25 pm, Sam wrote:
On 2/7/10 6:10 PM, Just A Guy wrote:

The Science is Scuttled NASA climate...

[snip]
NASA - Global Climate Change
http://climate.nasa.gov/

That would be the web site that was being criticized in
the link you snipped. It seems you are sinking into a
deeply pathological mental state when you offer as
denfense against criticism of a web site the very same
web site. With the faked up **** intact.

Have you become totally mentally chomped Sam?
Do they let you run around or do they tie you up?

You are not a scientist Sam. You are not even a
nice human being. Buy a clue.
Socks

Hi Socks---What is your evidence against and increasing
global warming? And what is your evidence that it is not
being driven by human released CO2?

May I suggest you digest Climate Skeptic Arguments and
their Scientific Background
http://www.swissre.com/resources/222...te_sceptic.pdf

Also: Climate change factsheets
http://www.swissre.com/pws/about%20u...actsheets.html