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On Wed, 17 Feb 2010 06:14:54 +0100, "OldBoy" wrote:
"Roger Coppock" wrote in message ... Latest Satellite Data Show A Warming Global Climate The satellite record, in all its current interpretations, shows that the air near the surface is warming. A layer? If so, how thick and how high from the ground? Will that mess up the lapse rate? What woger says the satellite data shows is an example of how everything is simplified in AGW theory, obviously the Southern Hemisphere is warmer than the Northern Hemisphere, and it seems because the sun has backed away from the Solar System Barycenter a little, the Southern Hemisphere is warmer than usual. I have no hope of any of the "climate" sources ever showing any cooling even if the Panama Canal Freezes over. And just the other day January was the warmest ever, now it is only the 3rd warmest. |
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"I M @ good guy" wrote in message
... On Wed, 17 Feb 2010 06:14:54 +0100, "OldBoy" wrote: "Roger Coppock" wrote in message ... Latest Satellite Data Show A Warming Global Climate The satellite record, in all its current interpretations, shows that the air near the surface is warming. A layer? If so, how thick and how high from the ground? Will that mess up the lapse rate? What woger says the satellite data shows is an example of how everything is simplified in AGW theory, obviously the Southern Hemisphere is warmer than the Northern Hemisphere, and it seems because the sun has backed away from the Solar System Barycenter a little, the Southern Hemisphere is warmer than usual. I have no hope of any of the "climate" sources ever showing any cooling even if the Panama Canal Freezes over. And just the other day January was the warmest ever, now it is only the 3rd warmest. |
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"I M @ good guy" wrote in message
... On Wed, 17 Feb 2010 06:14:54 +0100, "OldBoy" wrote: "Roger Coppock" wrote in message ... Latest Satellite Data Show A Warming Global Climate The satellite record, in all its current interpretations, shows that the air near the surface is warming. A layer? If so, how thick and how high from the ground? Will that mess up the lapse rate? Up till now temperatures are measured at 1 or 1.5m above ground. I woulkd like to know how satellite data compares to ground data. Just curious :-) |
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On Wed, 17 Feb 2010 11:31:28 +0100, "OldBoy" wrote:
"I M @ good guy" wrote in message .. . On Wed, 17 Feb 2010 06:14:54 +0100, "OldBoy" wrote: "Roger Coppock" wrote in message ... Latest Satellite Data Show A Warming Global Climate The satellite record, in all its current interpretations, shows that the air near the surface is warming. A layer? If so, how thick and how high from the ground? Will that mess up the lapse rate? Up till now temperatures are measured at 1 or 1.5m above ground. I woulkd like to know how satellite data compares to ground data. Just curious :-) It probably corresponds if they use ground data to calibrate the satellite data. But much more is involved, current data could all be precise and still have delusional warming if the same surface stations, the same instruments, the same units, the same methods and the same non-agenda analysis is not used. And even then, Urban Heat Island causes a huge bias on days with no rain or snow. |
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On 16 Feb, 22:33, Roger Coppock wrote:
Latest Satellite Data Show A Warming Global Climate The satellite record, in all its current interpretations, shows that the air near the surface is warming. For background on the satellite temperature proxy please see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Satelli...e_measurements The URL below is one of the more conservative records from the University of Alabama at Huntsville. http://vortex.nsstc.uah.edu/public/m.../tltglhmam_5.2 The global data given above are graphed he http://members.cox.net/rcoppock/UAH-MSU.jpg The regression statistics for the line in the graph above are below. Coefficients: * * * * * * *Estimate Std. Error t value Pr(|t|) (Intercept) -25.75364 * *2.06182 * -12.5 * 2e-16 YEARMON * * * 0.01295 * *0.00103 * *12.5 * 2.8e-30 Residual standard error: 0.18 on 372 degrees of freedom R-Squared: 0.30 F-statistic: *157 on 1 and 372 DF, *p-value: 2.82e-30 You are being lied to Roger. The data can not be trusted. |
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On Feb 17, 11:42*am, matt_sykes wrote:
On 16 Feb, 22:33, Roger Coppock wrote: Latest Satellite Data Show A Warming Global Climate The satellite record, in all its current interpretations, shows that the air near the surface is warming. For background on the satellite temperature proxy please see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Satelli...e_measurements The URL below is one of the more conservative records from the University of Alabama at Huntsville. http://vortex.nsstc.uah.edu/public/m.../tltglhmam_5.2 The global data given above are graphed he http://members.cox.net/rcoppock/UAH-MSU.jpg The regression statistics for the line in the graph above are below. Coefficients: * * * * * * *Estimate Std. Error t value Pr(|t|) (Intercept) -25.75364 * *2.06182 * -12.5 * 2e-16 YEARMON * * * 0.01295 * *0.00103 * *12.5 * 2.8e-30 Residual standard error: 0.18 on 372 degrees of freedom R-Squared: 0.30 F-statistic: *157 on 1 and 372 DF, *p-value: 2.82e-30 You are being lied to Roger. *The data can not be trusted. Prove it? - Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - |
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On Feb 17, 2:28*am, "
wrote: On Feb 16, 8:23*pm, Roger Coppock wrote: On Feb 16, 4:23*pm, chemist wrote: On Feb 16, 9:33*pm, Roger Coppock wrote: Latest Satellite Data Show A Warming Global Climate The satellite record, in all its current interpretations, shows that the air near the surface is warming. For background on the satellite temperature proxy please see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Satelli...e_measurements The URL below is one of the more conservative records from the University of Alabama at Huntsville. http://vortex.nsstc.uah.edu/public/m.../tltglhmam_5.2 The global data given above are graphed he http://members.cox.net/rcoppock/UAH-MSU.jpg The regression statistics for the line in the graph above are below. Coefficients: * * * * * * *Estimate Std. Error t value Pr(|t|) (Intercept) -25.75364 * *2.06182 * -12.5 * 2e-16 YEARMON * * * 0.01295 * *0.00103 * *12.5 * 2.8e-30 Residual standard error: 0.18 on 372 degrees of freedom R-Squared: 0.30 F-statistic: *157 on 1 and 372 DF, *p-value: 2.82e-30 I get a better R-squared relating CO2 increase to Ocean temp. Answer all the questions like a good scientist. Whose ocean temp? Whose CO2? What time period? What degrees of freedom? ø ROTFLMAO Stupid is as stupid does * *Roger you are asking questions that are * *not relevant to anything about climate * *All of the tropical waters are going to get * *warmer over the next 20 to 60 years mostly * *from magma seeps under water. What is your source for this? The warm * *water with CO2 encapsuled will rise via * *convection into the clouds and when the hot air * *from the tropics meets the cold air in the Arctic * *you get blizzards. With so much cloud cover * *the the sun does not get in to melt and so it piles * *up year by year. The increased weight of the ice * *and snow affects the tectonic plates and that * *squeezes more magma out in the tropics ... ø Face the facts:— sometime between 2030 and * *2100 the ice will start inching its way toward the * *Equator. The next ice age has already begun. * * —*— *| In real science the burden of proof is always *| on the proposer, never on the sceptics. So far *| neither IPCC nor anyone else has provided one *| iota of valid data for global warming nor have *| they provided data that climate change is being *| effected by commerce and industry, and not by *| natural phenomena- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - |
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On Feb 17, 3:46*pm, Maggsy wrote:
On Feb 17, 2:28*am, " wrote: On Feb 16, 8:23*pm, Roger Coppock wrote: On Feb 16, 4:23*pm, chemist wrote: On Feb 16, 9:33*pm, Roger Coppock wrote: Latest Satellite Data Show A Warming Global Climate The satellite record, in all its current interpretations, shows that the air near the surface is warming. For background on the satellite temperature proxy please see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Satelli...e_measurements The URL below is one of the more conservative records from the University of Alabama at Huntsville. http://vortex.nsstc.uah.edu/public/m.../tltglhmam_5.2 The global data given above are graphed he http://members.cox.net/rcoppock/UAH-MSU.jpg The regression statistics for the line in the graph above are below. Coefficients: * * * * * * *Estimate Std. Error t value Pr(|t|) (Intercept) -25.75364 * *2.06182 * -12.5 * 2e-16 YEARMON * * * 0.01295 * *0.00103 * *12.5 * 2.8e-30 Residual standard error: 0.18 on 372 degrees of freedom R-Squared: 0.30 F-statistic: *157 on 1 and 372 DF, *p-value: 2.82e-30 I get a better R-squared relating CO2 increase to Ocean temp. Answer all the questions like a good scientist. Whose ocean temp? Whose CO2? What time period? What degrees of freedom? ø ROTFLMAO Stupid is as stupid does * *Roger you are asking questions that are * *not relevant to anything about climate * *All of the tropical waters are going to get * *warmer over the next 20 to 60 years mostly * *from magma seeps under water. What is your source for this? It came to him in a dream. |
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On Feb 17, 3:46*pm, Maggsy wrote:
On Feb 17, 11:42*am, matt_sykes wrote: On 16 Feb, 22:33, Roger Coppock wrote: Latest Satellite Data Show A Warming Global Climate The satellite record, in all its current interpretations, shows that the air near the surface is warming. For background on the satellite temperature proxy please see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Satelli...e_measurements The URL below is one of the more conservative records from the University of Alabama at Huntsville. http://vortex.nsstc.uah.edu/public/m.../tltglhmam_5.2 The global data given above are graphed he http://members.cox.net/rcoppock/UAH-MSU.jpg The regression statistics for the line in the graph above are below. Coefficients: * * * * * * *Estimate Std. Error t value Pr(|t|) (Intercept) -25.75364 * *2.06182 * -12.5 * 2e-16 YEARMON * * * 0.01295 * *0.00103 * *12.5 * 2.8e-30 Residual standard error: 0.18 on 372 degrees of freedom R-Squared: 0.30 F-statistic: *157 on 1 and 372 DF, *p-value: 2.82e-30 You are being lied to Roger. *The data can not be trusted. Prove it? Why should he? To Matt, this is as obvious as the fact that the earth is flat. Or that oncologists tell patients they have cancer in order to boost the sales of chemotherapeutic drugs. |
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On Feb 16, 9:33*pm, Roger Coppock wrote:
Latest Satellite Data Show A Warming Global Climate The satellite record, in all its current interpretations, shows that the air near the surface is warming. For background on the satellite temperature proxy please see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Satelli...e_measurements The URL below is one of the more conservative records from the University of Alabama at Huntsville. http://vortex.nsstc.uah.edu/public/m.../tltglhmam_5.2 The global data given above are graphed he http://members.cox.net/rcoppock/UAH-MSU.jpg The regression statistics for the line in the graph above are below. Coefficients: * * * * * * *Estimate Std. Error t value Pr(|t|) (Intercept) -25.75364 * *2.06182 * -12.5 * 2e-16 YEARMON * * * 0.01295 * *0.00103 * *12.5 * 2.8e-30 Residual standard error: 0.18 on 372 degrees of freedom R-Squared: 0.30 F-statistic: *157 on 1 and 372 DF, *p-value: 2.82e-30 We are clearly entering a new extreme anomoly comparable to the 1998 event. The Sea Surface satellite measurement has gone through the roof this week going over 21.5C. Previous highest was 21.49C on April 1 2005. Data doesn't go back to 1998. http://discover.itsc.uah.edu/amsutem....csh?amsutemps |
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