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#21
February 19th 10, 11:48 AM
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Satellite Data Say, "January Was Third Warmest Month!"
On 17 fév, 14:46, Maggsy wrote:
On Feb 17, 11:42*am, matt_sykes wrote: On 16 Feb, 22:33, Roger Coppock wrote: Latest Satellite Data Show A Warming Global Climate The satellite record, in all its current interpretations, shows that the air near the surface is warming. For background on the satellite temperature proxy please see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Satelli...e_measurements The URL below is one of the more conservative records from the University of Alabama at Huntsville. http://vortex.nsstc.uah.edu/public/m.../tltglhmam_5.2 The global data given above are graphed he http://members.cox.net/rcoppock/UAH-MSU.jpg The regression statistics for the line in the graph above are below. Coefficients: * * * * * * *Estimate Std. Error t value Pr(|t|) (Intercept) -25.75364 * *2.06182 * -12.5 * 2e-16 YEARMON * * * 0.01295 * *0.00103 * *12.5 * 2.8e-30 Residual standard error: 0.18 on 372 degrees of freedom R-Squared: 0.30 F-statistic: *157 on 1 and 372 DF, *p-value: 2.82e-30 You are being lied to Roger. *The data can not be trusted. Prove it? - Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text -- Masquer le texte des messages précédents - - Afficher le texte des messages précédents -- Masquer le texte des messages précédents - - Afficher le texte des messages précédents - 80% less weather stations are used today to collate data by GISS and NCDC than in the 1980s. If the issue of AGW is so impotant why? |
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#22
February 19th 10, 11:50 AM
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Satellite Data Say, "January Was Third Warmest Month!"
On 17 fév, 15:32, JohnM wrote:
On Feb 17, 3:46*pm, Maggsy wrote: On Feb 17, 11:42*am, matt_sykes wrote: On 16 Feb, 22:33, Roger Coppock wrote: Latest Satellite Data Show A Warming Global Climate The satellite record, in all its current interpretations, shows that the air near the surface is warming. For background on the satellite temperature proxy please see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Satelli...e_measurements The URL below is one of the more conservative records from the University of Alabama at Huntsville. http://vortex.nsstc.uah.edu/public/m.../tltglhmam_5.2 The global data given above are graphed he http://members.cox.net/rcoppock/UAH-MSU.jpg The regression statistics for the line in the graph above are below. Coefficients: * * * * * * *Estimate Std. Error t value Pr(|t|) (Intercept) -25.75364 * *2.06182 * -12.5 * 2e-16 YEARMON * * * 0.01295 * *0.00103 * *12.5 * 2.8e-30 Residual standard error: 0.18 on 372 degrees of freedom R-Squared: 0.30 F-statistic: *157 on 1 and 372 DF, *p-value: 2.82e-30 You are being lied to Roger. *The data can not be trusted. Prove it? Why should he? To Matt, this is as obvious as the fact that the earth is flat. Or that oncologists tell patients they have cancer in order to boost the sales of chemotherapeutic drugs.- Masquer le texte des messages précédents - - Afficher le texte des messages précédents - Why do GISS and NCDC use 80 % less weather stations today than in the 1980s? |
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#23
February 19th 10, 02:18 PM
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Satellite Data Say, "January Was Third Warmest Month!"
On Feb 19, 11:48*am, matt_sykes wrote:
On 17 fév, 14:46, Maggsy wrote: On Feb 17, 11:42*am, matt_sykes wrote: On 16 Feb, 22:33, Roger Coppock wrote: Latest Satellite Data Show A Warming Global Climate The satellite record, in all its current interpretations, shows that the air near the surface is warming. For background on the satellite temperature proxy please see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Satelli...e_measurements The URL below is one of the more conservative records from the University of Alabama at Huntsville. http://vortex.nsstc.uah.edu/public/m.../tltglhmam_5.2 The global data given above are graphed he http://members.cox.net/rcoppock/UAH-MSU.jpg The regression statistics for the line in the graph above are below. Coefficients: * * * * * * *Estimate Std. Error t value Pr(|t|) (Intercept) -25.75364 * *2.06182 * -12.5 * 2e-16 YEARMON * * * 0.01295 * *0.00103 * *12.5 * 2.8e-30 Residual standard error: 0.18 on 372 degrees of freedom R-Squared: 0.30 F-statistic: *157 on 1 and 372 DF, *p-value: 2.82e-30 You are being lied to Roger. *The data can not be trusted. Prove it? - Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text -- Masquer le texte des messages précédents - - Afficher le texte des messages précédents -- Masquer le texte des messages précédents - - Afficher le texte des messages précédents - 80% less weather stations are used today to collate data by GISS and NCDC than in the 1980s. What is your source for this? If the issue of AGW is so impotant why? It's important because if it's not caused by us then probably we can't do anything about it. - Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - |
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#24
February 19th 10, 02:20 PM
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Satellite Data Say, "January Was Third Warmest Month!"
On Feb 18, 9:02*pm, JohnGr wrote:
On Feb 16, 9:33*pm, Roger Coppock wrote: Latest Satellite Data Show A Warming Global Climate The satellite record, in all its current interpretations, shows that the air near the surface is warming. For background on the satellite temperature proxy please see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Satelli...e_measurements The URL below is one of the more conservative records from the University of Alabama at Huntsville. http://vortex.nsstc.uah.edu/public/m.../tltglhmam_5.2 The global data given above are graphed he http://members.cox.net/rcoppock/UAH-MSU.jpg The regression statistics for the line in the graph above are below. Coefficients: * * * * * * *Estimate Std. Error t value Pr(|t|) (Intercept) -25.75364 * *2.06182 * -12.5 * 2e-16 YEARMON * * * 0.01295 * *0.00103 * *12.5 * 2.8e-30 Residual standard error: 0.18 on 372 degrees of freedom R-Squared: 0.30 F-statistic: *157 on 1 and 372 DF, *p-value: 2.82e-30 We are clearly entering a new extreme anomoly comparable to the 1998 event. The Sea Surface satellite measurement has gone through the roof this week going over 21.5C. Previous highest was 21.49C on April 1 2005. Data doesn't go back to 1998. http://discover.itsc.uah.edu/amsutem...csh?amsutemps- Hide quoted text - This links seems to be broken. - Show quoted text - |
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#25
February 19th 10, 05:36 PM
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Satellite Data Say, "January Was Third Warmest Month!"
On Feb 19, 11:01*am, Peter Muehlbauer
wrote: matt_sykes wrote: Why do GISS and NCDC use 80 % less weather stations today than in the 1980s? You mean those correct measuring rural ones for sure. ř The issue is really irrelevant. Nobody can control the wind Nobody can control the rain or snow Nobody (collectively) can control climate. Global temps are within natural variations Oceans heating are a prelude to glaciation Get used to it!! —*— | In real science the burden of proof is always | on the proposer, never on the sceptics. So far | neither IPCC nor anyone else has provided one | iota of valid data for global warming nor have | they provided data that climate change is being | effected by commerce and industry, and not by | natural phenomena |
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#26
February 19th 10, 05:46 PM
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Satellite Data Say, "January Was Third Warmest Month!"
On Feb 19, 2:20*pm, Maggsy wrote:
http://discover.itsc.uah.edu/amsutem...amsutemps-Hide quoted text - This links seems to be broken. http://discover.itsc.uah.edu/amsutemps/ |
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#27
February 20th 10, 01:00 PM
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Satellite Data Say, "January Was Third Warmest Month!"
On Feb 20, 12:00*pm, Peter Muehlbauer
wrote: JohnGr wrote: On Feb 19, 2:20 pm, Maggsy wrote: http://discover.itsc.uah.edu/amsutem...mps-Hidequoted text - This links seems to be broken. http://discover.itsc.uah.edu/amsutemps/ Am I wrong or is the temperature scale at the left and right side the wrong way up? At some point I must research what these temperatures actually refer to and how they relate to the 14'C figures. Maybe the bit that confused you was that all layers apart from the surface layer are NEGATIVE 'C. Anyway, the differences between all temps are about +/- .5 C. The variation compared to 0 K, respectively blackbody temperature is hilarious and within normal natural fluctuations. Yes-but that is enough to potentially cause problems. The IPCC is only claiming around 0.15C/decade. The point is if it keeps going in the same direction (as it has now for 4 decades) it eventually goes outside natural fluctuations (on human-historical timescales). |
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#28
February 20th 10, 02:27 PM
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Satellite Data Say, "January Was Third Warmest Month!"
On 19 Feb, 15:18, Maggsy wrote:
On Feb 19, 11:48*am, matt_sykes wrote: On 17 fév, 14:46, Maggsy wrote: On Feb 17, 11:42*am, matt_sykes wrote: On 16 Feb, 22:33, Roger Coppock wrote: Latest Satellite Data Show A Warming Global Climate The satellite record, in all its current interpretations, shows that the air near the surface is warming. For background on the satellite temperature proxy please see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Satelli...e_measurements The URL below is one of the more conservative records from the University of Alabama at Huntsville. http://vortex.nsstc.uah.edu/public/m.../tltglhmam_5.2 The global data given above are graphed he http://members.cox.net/rcoppock/UAH-MSU.jpg The regression statistics for the line in the graph above are below. Coefficients: * * * * * * *Estimate Std. Error t value Pr(|t|) (Intercept) -25.75364 * *2.06182 * -12.5 * 2e-16 YEARMON * * * 0.01295 * *0.00103 * *12.5 * 2.8e-30 Residual standard error: 0.18 on 372 degrees of freedom R-Squared: 0.30 F-statistic: *157 on 1 and 372 DF, *p-value: 2.82e-30 You are being lied to Roger. *The data can not be trusted. Prove it? - Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text -- Masquer le texte des messages précédents - - Afficher le texte des messages précédents -- Masquer le texte des messages précédents - - Afficher le texte des messages précédents - 80% less weather stations are used today to collate data by GISS and NCDC than in the 1980s. What is your source for this? If the issue of AGW is so impotant why? It's important because if it's not caused by us then probably we can't do anything about it. - Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - http://data.giss.nasa.gov/gistemp/station_data/ The graph in the middle. Scary isnt it, and its even on thier own website. Of course, if GW is an important issue why are they not MORE stations being used? One is always tempted to asume that its only the stations that show wartming that have been kept. |
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#29
February 20th 10, 02:28 PM
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Satellite Data Say, "January Was Third Warmest Month!"
On 19 Feb, 17:01, Peter Muehlbauer
wrote: matt_sykes wrote: On 17 fév, 15:32, JohnM wrote: On Feb 17, 3:46*pm, Maggsy wrote: On Feb 17, 11:42*am, matt_sykes wrote: On 16 Feb, 22:33, Roger Coppock wrote: Latest Satellite Data Show A Warming Global Climate The satellite record, in all its current interpretations, shows that the air near the surface is warming. For background on the satellite temperature proxy please see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Satelli...e_measurements The URL below is one of the more conservative records from the University of Alabama at Huntsville. http://vortex.nsstc.uah.edu/public/m.../tltglhmam_5.2 The global data given above are graphed he http://members.cox.net/rcoppock/UAH-MSU.jpg The regression statistics for the line in the graph above are below. Coefficients: * * * * * * *Estimate Std. Error t value Pr(|t|) (Intercept) -25.75364 * *2.06182 * -12.5 * 2e-16 YEARMON * * * 0.01295 * *0.00103 * *12.5 * 2.8e-30 Residual standard error: 0.18 on 372 degrees of freedom R-Squared: 0.30 F-statistic: *157 on 1 and 372 DF, *p-value: 2.82e-30 You are being lied to Roger. *The data can not be trusted. Prove it? Why should he? To Matt, this is as obvious as the fact that the earth is flat. Or that oncologists tell patients they have cancer in order to boost the sales of chemotherapeutic drugs.- Masquer le texte des messages précédents - - Afficher le texte des messages précédents - Why do GISS and NCDC use 80 % less weather stations today than in the 1980s? You mean those correct measuring rural ones for sure.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Yep, of course. Never theones near air ports and heat exchangers, incinerators, diesel generators etc etc etc. |
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#30
February 20th 10, 02:30 PM
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Satellite Data Say, "January Was Third Warmest Month!"
On Feb 16, 4:33*pm, Roger Coppock wrote:
Latest Satellite Data Show A Warming Global Climate The satellite record, in all its current interpretations, shows that the air near the surface is warming. For background on the satellite temperature proxy please see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Satelli...e_measurements The URL below is one of the more conservative records from the University of Alabama at Huntsville. http://vortex.nsstc.uah.edu/public/m.../tltglhmam_5.2 The global data given above are graphed he http://members.cox.net/rcoppock/UAH-MSU.jpg The regression statistics for the line in the graph above are below. Coefficients: * * * * * * *Estimate Std. Error t value Pr(|t|) (Intercept) -25.75364 * *2.06182 * -12.5 * 2e-16 YEARMON * * * 0.01295 * *0.00103 * *12.5 * 2.8e-30 Residual standard error: 0.18 on 372 degrees of freedom R-Squared: 0.30 F-statistic: *157 on 1 and 372 DF, *p-value: 2.82e-30 Satellite are liars Roger. Lookie at what happened to that couple who trusted their GPS in Washington State and ended up stranded for days because the satellites sent them to a place full of snow. We can't trust satellites anymore. The Chinese are sending them up now. |
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