On 2/20/10 1:30 PM, Last Post wrote:
Then where is it [proof of global warming]?


Global warming is the increase in the average temperature of Earth's
near-surface air and oceans since the mid-20th century and its projected
continuation. Global surface temperature increased 0.74 ± 0.18 °C (1.33
± 0.32 °F) between the start and the end of the 20th century.

RealClimate is a commentary site on climate science by working climate scientists
http://www.realclimate.org/index.php/data-sources/


Scientific Evidence - Increasing Temperatures & Greenhouse Gases
http://www.whrc.org/resources/online...c_evidence.htm

The Carbon Dioxide Greenhouse Effect
http://www.aip.org/history/climate/co2.htm


Global Warming (Overview from Wikipedia)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_warming

NOAA Climate Monitoring
http://lwf.ncdc.noaa.gov/climate-monitoring/index.php


Human contributed increase in green house gas CO2
http://www.globalchange.gov/HighResI...obal-pg-13.jpg
http://www.pnas.org/content/early/2009/10/16/0907094106
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases...1023163513.htm

Global surface (land and sea) temperature increase
http://www.pewclimate.org/docUploads...emp-trends.gif

And accompanying Sea Level Rise
http://www.wildwildweather.com/forec...level_rise.png

In sci.physics Sam Wormley wrote:
On 2/20/10 1:30 PM, Last Post wrote:
Then where is it [proof of global warming]?


Global warming is the increase in the average temperature of Earth's
near-surface air and oceans since the mid-20th century and its projected
continuation. Global surface temperature increased 0.74 ± 0.18 °C (1.33
± 0.32 °F) between the start and the end of the 20th century.

Now how would we know that to 2 decimal places when the reporting stations
used have changed significantly in location, surroundings and number?

I would suggest reading "How to Lie with Statistics" and "An Introduction
to Experimentation".


--
Jim Pennino

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On Sat, 20 Feb 2010 16:34:52 -0600, Sam Wormley wrote:

On 2/20/10 1:30 PM, Last Post wrote:
Then where is it [proof of global warming]?


Global warming is the increase in the average temperature of Earth's
near-surface air and oceans since the mid-20th century and its projected
continuation. Global surface temperature increased 0.74 ± 0.18 °C (1.33
± 0.32 °F) between the start and the end of the 20th century.

RealClimate is a commentary site on climate science by working climate
scientists
http://www.realclimate.org/index.php/data-sources/

Damn it, Wormley. Realclimate.org is Mann's website. He's the idiot who
fabricated the infamous "hockey stick" lie and told everyone that we'd be
fried by now unless we packed up all our money in suitcases and sent it
to the chinese.

On 2/21/10 1:29 AM, Marvin the Martian wrote:
On Sat, 20 Feb 2010 16:34:52 -0600, Sam Wormley wrote:

On 2/20/10 1:30 PM, Last Post wrote:
Then where is it [proof of global warming]?


Global warming is the increase in the average temperature of Earth's
near-surface air and oceans since the mid-20th century and its projected
continuation. Global surface temperature increased 0.74 ± 0.18 °C (1.33
± 0.32 °F) between the start and the end of the 20th century.

RealClimate is a commentary site on climate science by working climate
scientists
http://www.realclimate.org/index.php/data-sources/

Damn it, Wormley. Realclimate.org is Mann's website. He's the idiot who
fabricated the infamous "hockey stick" lie and told everyone that we'd be
fried by now unless we packed up all our money in suitcases and sent it
to the chinese.


You best rethink your assertions, Marvin!

See section A3

http://www.swissre.com/resources/222...te_sceptic.pdf



A) Global warming:

• Al Global temperature cannot be calculated because of unreliable
measurements
• A2 Global warming is an artifact of the Urban Heat Island effect
• A3 The most important argument of IPCC (Mann et al "hockey stick"
curve) has proved to be incorrect
• A4 Satellite data show no warming of the troposphere In contrast to
model predictions
• A5 Sea level isn't rising everywhere
• A6 There Is no apparent Increase of extreme events
• A7 In earlier times the climate was much warmer than today

B) Forcing factors:

• B1 Other factors have potent ally caused the present warming
• B2 Water vapour is the most important greenhouse gas, CO2 is unimportant
• B3 Climate change is driven by the sun
• B4 Climate change is driven by cosmic rays
• 05 Anthropogenic CO, emissions are much smaller than natural CO2 emissions
• B6 Volcanoes emit more greenhouse gases than human activities
• B7 There was global cooling between 1940 and 1970 although CO2
concentration increased

C) Carbon dioxide (CO2)

• Cl CO2 measurements In Ice cores are not reliable
• C2 CO2 increase is just the result of temperature change
• C3 CO2 is just a fertilizer for plants and therefore positive
• C4 The observed increase in CO, IS much smaller than assumed In
climate models
• C5 The greenhouse effect of CO, is small because CO, absorption bands
are saturated


http://www.swissre.com/resources/222...te_sceptic.pdf