On Feb 23, 4:51Â*am, Earl Evleth wrote:
On 21/02/10 18:36, in article
, "Claudius

Denk" wrote:

Five Myths of Global Warming Propaganda

they aren't myths and you Â*are mything.

ø Proof???????

Myth #1: There is a natural greenhouse effect.

Fact: The term "greenhouse effect" has never been defined such that it
achieves even the minimum standards of science.

Proof of claim, none. A stupid statement.

ø Stupid Earl. Have you forgtten that there is no
proof of a negative? Now how are you going to
prove otherwise?

Myth #2: Carbon dioxide is a greenhouse gas.

Fact: There is no scientific definition of "greenhouse gas" that
excludes any and all gasses from being designated a "greenhouse gas."
So the claim frequently made by alarmists that CO2 is a greenhouse gas
is inane.

Pretty simple actually

a gas that contributes to the greenhouse effect by absorbing infrared
radiation wordnetweb.princeton.edu/perl/webwn

ø However nothing in the clouds blocks/absorbs IR

Myth #3: Carbon dioxide levels have increased in recent decades.

Fact: Since we have no way of measuring past CO2 levels estimates of
past levels of CO2 are highly speculative.

CO2 levels are one of the more accurate measures from ice cores.
We know wht the levels were for instance, for the last 1000 years
to with a few ppm.

ø LOL the ice cores are compacted and so give an
exaggerated reading

Myth #4: Calculations of i) the radiative forcing caused by CO2 and

ø There is NO radiative effect from atmospheric CO2.

ii) climate sensitivity from paleo and recent climatic changes are
consistent with recent temperature changes.

ø Nonsense

Fact: Radiative forcing and climate sensitivity are not measurable or
even scientifically definable. Â*It's absurd to suggest that
temperature changes are consistent with something that is immeasurable/
undefinable.

CO2 levels and temperatures are measurable and measured.

Here is my proofhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Climate_Change_Attribution.png

ø Wiki has become an AGW
alarmist site and ergo: useless

The record of termperatures and CO2 since 1820
has been twisted to provide a bad record, slewing
it in favour of warming.

Myth #5: No efforts to explain recent changes without taking into
account of CO2 have succeeded - despite enormous efforts to do so.

The big lie technique, a favorite with deniers.

ø By your attempt to associate skeptics with
Holocaust deniers sticks a biog swastika
right in center of your forehead GG

ø The issue is really irrelevant.
Nobody can control the wind
Nobody can control the rain or snow
Nobody (collectively) can control climate.
Global temps are within natural variations
Oceans heating are a prelude to glaciation

 Get used to it!!

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| In real science the burden of proof is always
| on the proposer, never on the sceptics. So far
| neither IPCC nor anyone else has provided one
| iota of valid data for global warming nor have
| they provided data that climate change is being
| effected by commerce and industry, and not by
| natural causes