On Mar 31, 10:26*am, John Stockwell wrote:
On Mar 30, 12:24*am, Bill Ward wrote:
On Mon, 29 Mar 2010 14:09:59 -0700, Kleuskes & Moos wrote:

I'm not sure if you would recognize an "argument from ignorance" if it
sat on your lap and smacked you in the face.

They don't need to. *They just need to contain the words,"The time
resolution of thePETMis not sufficiently fine to resolve an 800 lead or
lag, but there does not seem to be any other likely cause for thePETM".

ø Bill: How about nature?

Actually, no. The only plausible cause for the PETM is the CO2
increase.

ø NONSENSE

The
volcanic eruptions are known from the geologic record. The cessation
of the
volcanism is concurrent with the return of CO2 levels to normal, and
the temperature
also.
In the examples were CO2 is shown to lag warming, the warming is
concurrent
with trends that are are consistent with the Milankovich cycles. So,
in those cases,
as well, CO2 is reinforcing the warming effect that starts with
increased insolation
of the northern hemisphere.

ø More irrelevant nonsense.

ø Here is a brief quiz:

1- Can you control the wind in any way? Yes - No

2- Can you control the rain or the snow? Yes - No

3- Can you control the climate in any way? Yes = No

Those who say yes to one or more must describe how.
Those who fail to answer should stay out of these groups.

— —
| In real science the burden of proof is always
| on the proposer, never on the skeptics. So far
| neither IPCC nor anyone else has provided one
| iota of valid data for global warming nor have
| they provided data that climate change is being
| effected by commerce and industry, and not by
| natural causes

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On Mar 31, 10:26*am, John Stockwell wrote:
On Mar 30, 12:24*am, Bill Ward wrote:
On Mon, 29 Mar 2010 14:09:59 -0700, Kleuskes & Moos wrote:

I'm not sure if you would recognize an "argument from ignorance" if it
sat on your lap and smacked you in the face.

They don't need to. *They just need to contain the words,"The time
resolution of thePETMis not sufficiently fine to resolve an 800 lead or
lag, but there does not seem to be any other likely cause for thePETM".

ø Bill: How about nature?

Actually, no. The only plausible cause for the PETM is the CO2
increase.

ø NONSENSE

The
volcanic eruptions are known from the geologic record. The cessation
of the
volcanism is concurrent with the return of CO2 levels to normal, and
the temperature
also.
In the examples were CO2 is shown to lag warming, the warming is
concurrent
with trends that are are consistent with the Milankovich cycles. So,
in those cases,
as well, CO2 is reinforcing the warming effect that starts with
increased insolation
of the northern hemisphere.

ø More irrelevant nonsense.

ø Here is a brief quiz:

1- Can you control the wind in any way? Yes - No

Wind is weather, not climate.



2- Can you control the rain or the snow? Yes - No

Rainstorms and snowstorms are weather, not climate.


3- Can you control the climate in any way? Yes = No

Nuclear winter.
Anthropogenic global warming.



-- Steven L.

In article ,
says...

3- Can you control the climate in any way? Yes = No

Nuclear winter.
Anthropogenic global warming.


That's not control, that's affect, but don't worry, leo can't tell the
difference.

--
Alan LeHun

"Alan LeHun" wrote in message
:

In article ,
says...

3- Can you control the climate in any way? Yes = No

Nuclear winter.
Anthropogenic global warming.


That's not control, that's affect, but don't worry, leo can't tell the
difference.

Those two effects would balance each other out, enabling good control.



-- Steven L.

In message , Steven L.
writes


"Alan LeHun" wrote in message
:

In article ,
says...

3- Can you control the climate in any way? Yes = No

Nuclear winter.
Anthropogenic global warming.


That's not control, that's affect, but don't worry, leo can't tell the
difference.

Those two effects would balance each other out, enabling good control.

We've already explained to you, several times, why your fantasy of
suppressing climate change by albedo modification by nuclear explosions
doesn't work.
--
alias Ernest Major