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Default John Cook: Skeptical Science *debunked*

On Tue, 06 Apr 2010 14:51:01 -0500, josephus wrote:

Marvin the Martian wrote:
On Fri, 02 Apr 2010 20:29:11 -0700, Rob Dekker wrote:

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On Tue, 30 Mar 2010 07:52:54 -0500, josephus wrote:


so peer review is fake and justifys your mudslinging.

Actually, we know from the CRU e-mails that peer review in "climate
science" was outright intentional fraud committed by many
conspirators.

Really ? international fraud was committed ? I must have missed the
memo.


Having your head up your ass must be really encumber your mobility.

The e-mails shows how:
1) The "Climate Scientist" conspired and used "peer review" to prevent
opposing views that exposed their lies from being published. 2) How
they conspired to use "tricks" to "hide the decline". 3) How they
fudged the data.
4) The list goes on.

Really, flat out telling bald faced lies is really ugly. I can't
believe you're so damned stupid as to really believe your own lies. If
you can't address the facts, don't act like a mindless idiot who
repeats whatever he is told by his masters.


except the programs dont show that. they show a non proffesional
programmer dealing with dirty and insane data. it happens to everybody
that deals with raw data. most raw data is noisy and has artifacts in
it. it is a pain to program. to my mind, the fact that the programs
are innocent and the critics are using code that is not part of the main
work. the code that I looked at was processing the PROXIES. and that
confounds the idea that they were faking the science. I have
temperature data and I dont see any data like that in the set.

so the statement that they were cooking the data is just not borne
out.
the data was dirty and required extensive processing.

what I want is somebody to point me to the algorithim for the
TREERING PROXIES.


Don't we all. Join the club.

Maybe you could file a FOIA request. I understand they may be taking
those a bit more seriously nowadays.
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