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Russians Debunk Peak Oil Theory - as Bogus as Greenhouse Gas Scam
Written by John O'Sullivan, via e-mail | 07 September 2010


Russians prove 'fossil' fuel is junk science theory linked to global
warming hype. Oil is shown to be mineral in origin-not from fossilized
organisms. No more fears over shrinking reserves as experts say
petroleum is naturally 'renewable.'


Yes, you read that right and over 2,000 eastern European peer-reviewed
science papers sinisterly ignored by western governments and the
mainstream media back up the claims.


Since the mid 20th century scientists have known that the fossil fuel
theory is bogus and have compellingly demonstrated that petroleum is
derived from highly compressed mineral deposits deep beneath the
surface. But the most startling consequence to these findings is that
oil is a constant renewable regenerating in nature.


Since the Middle East oil crisis of the 1970's gasoline suppliers have
stoked media fears that our planet's reserves are fast in decline. The
term 'peak oil' was coined and we were told 'fossil fuels' would have to
become increasingly more expensive as our insatiable appetite drank this
'finite' liquid energy source dry.


Such propaganda suited the interests of the oil industry and western
government who systematically bolstered a weak scientific theory very
much mirroring the greenhouse gas theory scam that was the vehicle for
taxing emissions of carbon dioxide.


Both stories have been acted out by universal media connivance and
scientists and government-funded academia were systematically kept in
lockstep for decades with funding strings attached.


Repositioning Theory as Fact


All these years the terms 'peak oil' and 'fossil fuels' have been
synonymous. They imply we are inexorably faced with diminishing natural
resources and the days of cheap carbon-based energy are gone. Supplanted
in the public consciousness as real we grew to accept the inevitable
coming of ever-higher energy prices as a consequence of our consumer
lifestyle.


Journalists gleaned their own 'evidence' for such an apocalyptic
narrative from bleak books such as James Howard Kunstler's 'The Long
Emergency: Surviving the End of Oil, Climate Change, and Other
Converging Catastrophes of the Twenty-First Century' and Richard
Heinberg's 'The Party's Over: Oil, War and the Fate of Industrial
Societies' among others and the public were sold on the fears.


Constantly fed a diet of this garbage our collective unconsciousness
unwittingly allowed the repositioning of Hubbert's Theory of Peak Oil
into fossil fuel fact.


As a consequence, in 2005, Congressional Representative Roscoe G.
Bartlett, Republican of Maryland, and Senator Tom Udall, a New Mexico
Democrat created the Congressional Peak Oil Caucus.


Scientists who dissented from the groupspeak were vilified or ignored..
In the 1980's distinguished British scientist, Sir Fred Hoyle FRS was
one who tried and failed to expose the chicanery of proponents of the
fossil fuel theory and diminishing world oil reserves. Hoyle, without
the benefit of the worldwide web tried repeatedly to expose this
flimflam,


"The suggestion that petroleum might have arisen from some
transformation of squashed fish or biological detritus is surely the
silliest notion to have been entertained by substantial numbers of
persons over an extended period of time."


The English professor valiantly argued that oil is abiogenic (i.e. from
mineral deposition) and cannot be a biotic (from fossils). Yet despite
his eminent stature Hoyle's sage insight gained him no media platform..


Along with Hoyle other western scientists refused to toe the politically
correct line as evidenced in an increasing number of articles to redress
the balance about petroleum economics. While several papers by Professor
Michael C. Lynch of the Massachusetts Institute of Technology also
exposed the myth of "oil exhaustion" and demonstrating the high-pressure
genesis of petroleum. No media voice for them either.


Russia Becomes World's Next Energy Superpower


Only in Russia, a nation that has eschewed military supremacy to become
a global economic power, did Hoyle's and Lynch's words find a welcome
community of likeminded scientists. Indeed, outside of the
English-speaking world there is no controversy and its common parlance
that oil is a mineral, not a biological product and as such our planet
has endless untapped reserves.


As a consequence of applying this knowledge Russia has gone from
strength to strength astutely capitalising on its 'liquid gold'
reserves. "I would describe the mindset right now among the Russian
political elite as infused with 'petroconfidence'," So says Cliff
Kupchan of the Eurasia Group, in an interview with the BBC.


Indeed, between 1951-2001, thousands of articles and many books and
monographs were published mainly in the mainstream Russian scientific
journals proving abiotic petroleum origins - all ignored by western
governments and media. For example, leading expert V. A. Krayushkin has
alone published more than two hundred fifty articles on modern petroleum
geology, and several books.


Russian mineralogists, oil explorers and each successive government
since the dark days of the former Soviet Union have been unalterably
upbeat that they've ousted the 'peak oil, fossil fuels' nonsense. And
who are we to argue - they've got the money in the bank to prove it.


As a result Russia is firmly ensconced as the world's second-largest oil
exporter and is becoming so preeminent in the field of oil and gas
exploration and innovation that the nation is set to usurp the U.S. not
as a military force, but as the world's energy superpower for the 21st
century


Oil - Our Greatest Natural Renewable Energy Source


Exploiting their cutting-edge technology Russia has successfully
discovered numerous petroleum fields, a number of which produce either
partly or entirely from a crystalline basement and which appears
distinctly self-replenishing. Yes, you read that right - Russia enjoys
the best naturally renewable energy source - petroleum! No billions
wasted on wind farms, solar or wave white elephants here.


Indeed, to our former soviet cousins, the idea of 'peak oil' is
laughable because, if they're calculations are right, oil is the most
bountiful, most efficient and cheapest renewable fuel and will last at
least for many hundreds of years to come.


Disgruntled that the Russians have been allowed to take such a big lead
the brightest and the best in the west are now using the blogosphere in
helping to forge resurgence against the fossil fuel, peak oil myth. So
says Daniel Yergin, the Pulitzer Prize-winning author of "The Prize: The
Epic Quest for Oil, Money and Power" and chairman of IHS Cambridge
Energy Research Associates, a company that advises governments and
industry.


Yergin like others cites the compelling evidence that the MSM won't show
you; these anti-fossil fuel theorists cite alkanes, kerogens and many
other petroleum related chemicals that have been found on meteorites -
which we know can support no organic life and thus proving the lie of
the fossil fuel theory.


Why are We Still Being Lied to?


Indeed, so lame has the fossil fuel theory become that even its most
strident supporters are unable to muster the flimsiest of evidence for
their position. In "The Abiotic Oil Controversy" key proponent of the
abiotic (fossil) origin, Richard Heinberg admits his case is exposed as
threadbare lamenting,


* "Perhaps one day there will be general agreement that at least some
oil is indeed abiotic. Maybe there are indeed deep methane belts twenty
miles below the Earth's surface."


So scant is the evidence to support Heinberg and other western
pro-fossil fuel theorists that in researching his article 'The Evidence
for Limitless Oil and Gas' (Digital Journal), Bill Jencks reveals,


"I searched the internet including Google Scholar and there seems to be
no 'absolute proof' or support from direct modern research for the
Biogenic Theory of oil and gas formation. This theory -- for want of a
better word -- seems to be greatly 'assumed' by geologists throughout
geological research."


Like me, Jencks found a mountain of evidence backing Russian claims.
From the Joint Institute of the Physics of the Earth Russian Academy of
Sciences, Moscow we find incredible sources as revealed by A
Dissertation by J.F. Kenney which condemns the outmoded 18th century
"anarchaic hypothesis" that petroleum somehow (miraculously) evolved
from biological detritus, and is accordingly limited in abundance.


Instead, the fossil fuels hypothesis has been replaced during the past
forty years by the modern Russian-Ukrainian theory of deep, abiotic
petroleum origins which has established that petroleum is a primordial
material erupted from great depth. Kenney states,


"Therefore, petroleum abundances are limited by little more than the
quantities of its constituents as were incorporated into the Earth at
the time of its formation; and its availability depends upon
technological development and exploration competence."


In a straight scientific shootout Peak Oil Theory vs Russian-Ukraine
Modern Theory the Russians win hands down. But it remains a peculiar
anachronism that there is no body of American or other English language
peer review to verify or disprove the Russian science.


But why are we still being lied to? With such unwillingness to correct
these intellectual failings it is little wonder that there is growing
dissatisfaction among voters and thinkers in English-speaking nations
and the EU. Those who study carefully the facts now reasonably conclude
that beyond the media hard sell there is no energy crisis; the world has
a plentiful supply of cheap renewable petroleum and another enviro-myth
needs to be mercilessly culled.


References:


Kudryavtsev N.A., 1959. Geological proof of the deep origin of ...


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I first read of this theory, while sitting in a dentist's office, 20
years ago. *I found it intriguing then and still find it intriguing.


As I recall, they had a pretty good counterargument to the observation
that fossil fuels are only found at locations that have sedimentary or
metamorphic geology and not found at locations that have igneous
geology. *I think they were saying that sedimentary rock is the only
kind of rock that provides both a pathway for these hydrocarbons to
seep up but also to allow it to be trapped by layers of rock (salt
layers for example) that trap it in large quantities.


I also remember tectonic factors having somekind of hypothetical role
in this, I don't rememeber exactly how or why but I think one of the
observations was that hydrocarbons tend to be found at locations that
have higher degrees of tectonic activity.


I'm still very much a fence sitter on this issue.


Thanks, James, for bringing this to our attention.


*Dr. Thomas Gold (founding director of
Cornell University Center for Radiophysics and Space
Research) and Dr. J.F. Kenney of Gas Resources
Corporations, Houston, Texas.

In his 1999 book, "The Deep Hot Biosphere," Dr. Gold
presents compelling evidence for inorganic oil formation.
He notes that geologic structures where oil is found all
correspond to "deep earth" formations, not the haphazard
depositions we find with sedimentary rock, associated
fossils or even current surface life.

He also notes that oil extracted from varying depths from
the same oil field have the same chemistry – oil chemistry
does not vary as fossils vary with increasing depth. Also
interesting is the fact that oil is found in huge quantities
among geographic formations where assays of prehistoric
life are not sufficient to produce the existing reservoirs of
oil.


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Written by John O'Sullivan, via e-mail | 07 September 2010


Where is the a Federal power to pass laws on ENERGY?


Energy is industry. It's commerce you blathering idiot!!
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Sustainable oil?
Posted: May 25, 2004

By Chris Bennett

About 80 miles off of the coast of Louisiana lies a mostly submerged
mountain, the top of which is known as Eugene Island. The portion
underwater is an eerie-looking, sloping tower jutting up from the
depths of the Gulf of Mexico, with deep fissures and perpendicular
faults which spontaneously spew natural gas. A significant reservoir
of crude oil was discovered nearby in the late '60s, and by 1970, a
platform named Eugene 330 was busily producing about 15,000 barrels a
day of high-quality crude oil.

By the late '80s, the platform's production had slipped to less than
4,000 barrels per day, and was considered pumped out. Done. Suddenly,
in 1990, production soared back to 15,000 barrels a day, and the
reserves which had been estimated at 60 million barrels in the '70s,
were recalculated at 400 million barrels. Interestingly, the measured
geological age of the new oil was quantifiably different than the oil
pumped in the '70s.

Analysis of seismic recordings revealed the presence of a "deep fault"
at the base of the Eugene Island reservoir which was gushing up a
river of oil from some deeper and previously unknown source.

Similar results were seen at other Gulf of Mexico oil wells. Similar
results were found in the Cook Inlet oil fields in Alaska. Similar
results were found in oil fields in Uzbekistan. Similarly in the
Middle East, where oil exploration and extraction have been under way
for at least the last 20 years, known reserves have doubled. Currently
there are somewhere in the neighborhood of 680 billion barrels of
Middle East reserve oil.

Creating that much oil would take a big pile of dead dinosaurs and
fermenting prehistoric plants. Could there be another source for crude
oil?

An intriguing theory now permeating oil company research staffs
suggests that crude oil may actually be a natural inorganic product,
not a stepchild of unfathomable time and organic degradation. The
theory suggests there may be huge, yet-to-be-discovered reserves of
oil at depths that dwarf current world estimates.

The theory is simple: Crude oil forms as a natural inorganic process
which occurs between the mantle and the crust, somewhere between 5 and
20 miles deep. The proposed mechanism is as follows:




* Methane (CH4) is a common molecule found in quantity throughout
our solar system – huge concentrations exist at great depth in the
Earth.


* At the mantle-crust interface, roughly 20,000 feet beneath the
surface, rapidly rising streams of compressed methane-based gasses hit
pockets of high temperature causing the condensation of heavier
hydrocarbons. The product of this condensation is commonly known as
crude oil.


* Some compressed methane-based gasses migrate into pockets and
reservoirs we extract as "natural gas."


* In the geologically "cooler," more tectonically stable regions
around the globe, the crude oil pools into reservoirs.


* In the "hotter," more volcanic and tectonically active areas,
the oil and natural gas continue to condense and eventually to
oxidize, producing carbon dioxide and steam, which exits from active
volcanoes.


* Periodically, depending on variations of geology and Earth
movement, oil seeps to the surface in quantity, creating the vast oil-
sand deposits of Canada and Venezuela, or the continual seeps found
beneath the Gulf of Mexico and Uzbekistan.


* Periodically, depending on variations of geology, the vast, deep
pools of oil break free and replenish existing known reserves of oil.



There are a number of observations across the oil-producing regions of
the globe that support this theory, and the list of proponents begins
with Mendelev (who created the periodic table of elements) and
includes Dr. Thomas Gold (founding director of Cornell University
Center for Radiophysics and Space Research) and Dr. J.F. Kenney of Gas
Resources Corporations, Houston, Texas.

In his 1999 book, "The Deep Hot Biosphere," Dr. Gold presents
compelling evidence for inorganic oil formation. He notes that
geologic structures where oil is found all correspond to "deep earth"
formations, not the haphazard depositions we find with sedimentary
rock, associated fossils or even current surface life.

He also notes that oil extracted from varying depths from the same oil
field have the same chemistry – oil chemistry does not vary as fossils
vary with increasing depth. Also interesting is the fact that oil is
found in huge quantities among geographic formations where assays of
prehistoric life are not sufficient to produce the existing reservoirs
of oil. Where then did it come from?

Another interesting fact is that every oil field throughout the world
has outgassing helium. Helium is so often present in oil fields that
helium detectors are used as oil-prospecting tools. Helium is an inert
gas known to be a fundamental product of the radiological decay or
uranium and thorium, identified in quantity at great depths below the
surface of the earth, 200 and more miles below. It is not found in
meaningful quantities in areas that are not producing methane, oil or
natural gas. It is not a member of the dozen or so common elements
associated with life. It is found throughout the solar system as a
thoroughly inorganic product.

Even more intriguing is evidence that several oil reservoirs around
the globe are refilling themselves, such as the Eugene Island
reservoir – not from the sides, as would be expected from cocurrent
organic reservoirs, but from the bottom up.

Dr. Gold strongly believes that oil is a "renewable, primordial soup
continually manufactured by the Earth under ultrahot conditions and
tremendous pressures. As this substance migrates toward the surface,
it is attached by bacteria, making it appear to have an organic origin
dating back to the dinosaurs."

Smaller oil companies and innovative teams are using this theory to
justify deep oil drilling in Alaska and the Gulf of Mexico, among
other locations, with some success. Dr. Kenney is on record predicting
that parts of Siberia contain a deep reservoir of oil equal to or
exceeding that already discovered in the Middle East.

Could this be true?

In August 2002, in the "Proceedings of the National Academy of
Sciences (US)," Dr. Kenney published a paper, which had a partial
title of "The genesis of hydrocarbons and the origin of petroleum."
Dr. Kenney and three Russian coauthors conclude:



The Hydrogen-Carbon system does not spontaneously evolve
hydrocarbons at pressures less than 30 Kbar, even in the most
favorable environment. The H-C system evolves hydrocarbons under
pressures found in the mantle of the Earth and at temperatures
consistent with that environment.



He was quoted as stating that "competent physicists, chemists,
chemical engineers and men knowledgeable of thermodynamics have known
that natural petroleum does not evolve from biological materials since
the last quarter of the 19th century."

Deeply entrenched in our culture is the belief that at some point in
the relatively near future we will see the last working pump on the
last functioning oil well screech and rattle, and that will be that.
The end of the Age of Oil. And unless we find another source of cheap
energy, the world will rapidly become a much darker and dangerous
place.

If Dr. Gold and Dr. Kenney are correct, this "the end of the world as
we know it" scenario simply won't happen. Think about it ... while not
inexhaustible, deep Earth reserves of inorganic crude oil and
commercially feasible extraction would provide the world with
generations of low-cost fuel. Dr. Gold has been quoted saying that
current worldwide reserves of crude oil could be off by a factor of
over 100.

A Hedberg Conference, sponsored by the American Association of
Petroleum Geologists, was scheduled to discuss and publicly debate
this issue. Papers were solicited from interested academics and
professionals. The conference was scheduled to begin June 9, 2003, but
was canceled at the last minute. A new date has yet to be set.



Related links:

Gas Origin Theories To Be Studied

The Mystery Of Eugene Island 330

Odd Reservoir Off Louisiana Prods Oil Experts To Seek A Deeper Meaning

Fuel's Paradise



Chris Bennett manages an environmental engineering division for a West
Coast technology firm. He and his wife of 26 years make their home on
the San Francisco Bay. It's commerce you blathering idiot!!

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