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Default Dick Smith Joins The Endless List Of Global Warming Hypocrites

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"Sapient Fridge" wrote in message
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In message , Peter Webb
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The full effect of today's CO2 is delayed by heat sinks, mainly the
oceans. There is an awful lot of water there and it takes time for it all
to warm up.


http://www.oco.noaa.gov/index.jsp?sh...&nav=universal

There are also positive feedback loops which are only just starting to
kick in e.g. albedo changes from melting ice.




So far no sign of these mythical positive feedbacks!
You have great faith in this my son.
You really should take up religion!


No sign? Only because you have your eyes closed.

Methyl hydrates:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/8205864.stm

Melting permafrost:
http://www.terranature.org/methaneSiberia.htm

Melting ice:
http://nsidc.org/images/arcticseaice...02_Figure2.png

Note that the albedo change from melting ice is currently countered by
the fact that felling forests lowers albedo, but that's not a good nor
long term solution.

"If climate has not "tipped" in over 4 billion years it's not going to tip
now due to mankind. The planet has a natural thermostat"
Richard S. Lindzen, Atmospheric Physicist, Professor of Meteorology MIT,
Former IPCC Lead Author


Actually the earth climate has "tipped" several times in the past,
here's the best known two examples:

A cooling one:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snowball_earth

A warming one:
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases...1025091047.htm

It does always recover of course, but it takes millions of years to do
so.
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