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Default Clive James On The Day It Rained All Over The Alarmists' Parade

On Sun, 6 Mar 2011 00:08:18 +1100, "lonebare" wrote:


An extract, in which James tells of the day when the alarmists who preached
of a "permanent drought" in which "the rain that falls isn't actually going
to fill our dams" finally took a cold shower:

"Until the rains came, the voice of Professor Tim Flannery had been loud in
the land."


Flannery didn't predict "permanent drought".

http://www.abc.net.au/news/newsitems...6/s1389858.htm

"......Leading environmentalist Professor Tim Flannery has warned that
Australia is now entering long-term climate change, which could cause
longer and more frequent droughts....."


Cf these predictions by the CSIRO

http://www.csiro.au/files/mediaRelea.../Prextreme.htm
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Dr Debbie Abbs and Dr Kathy McInnes, from CSIRO Atmospheric Research,
assessed the likely costs of severe weather events on cities in a
warmer world.

They found the combined influence of increasing sea-level rise and
extreme weather will result in an increase in flood heights.

"This equates to flooding over an area much larger than has been
historically affected," says Dr Abbs. "What isn't a flood prone area
now may become one in the future."

End extract


http://www.abc.net.au/news/newsitems...0/s1765929.htm
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The CSIRO says the drought can mostly be attributed to Australia's
normal weather patterns but says global warming has intensified it.

The head of climate change impacts and risk for the CSIRO, Penny
Whetton, says for thousands of years droughts have happened every few
years in different parts of the country.

She says due to human influence on the climate system, or global
warming, there will be higher temperatures and changes in rainfall
patterns.

She says conditions will become drier in the southern half of
Australia and wet years will become less frequent in the next 50 years
or so.

"There will always be the wet years and there will always be the dry
years and the dry years are likely because of El Nino," she said.

"However because of the climate change effect, human influence, we'd
expect the dry years to become a bit more dry and a little bit more
frequent as time goes by."

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Default Clive James On The Day It Rained All Over The Alarmists' Parade

In sci.skeptic Surfer wrote:
On Sun, 6 Mar 2011 00:08:18 +1100, "lonebare" wrote:
An extract, in which James tells of the day when the alarmists who preached
of a "permanent drought" in which "the rain that falls isn't actually going
to fill our dams" finally took a cold shower:
"Until the rains came, the voice of Professor Tim Flannery had been loud in
the land."

Flannery didn't predict "permanent drought".
http://www.abc.net.au/news/newsitems...6/s1389858.htm
"......Leading environmentalist Professor Tim Flannery has warned that
Australia is now entering long-term climate change, which could cause
longer and more frequent droughts....."

....

In any case, the substantive whine "rain not filling the dams" is presently
being upheld. Despite record floods and rainfall in Victoria the dams
are still 1/2-empty as per recent post from Mr Robot.

--
[high levels of consumption is proxy for sloth]
It might be "well known" correlation but it is clearly pure ********.
The data you quoted yields quickly to ANOVA and there is much stronger
"evidence" of a square law dependency on fossil fuel useage thanks to [...]
8.84878 a+bx 76.889 -0.12678 0
[the -.12 seems to confirm original thesis]
7.830195 a+bx+c[x]2 76.6989 0.12963 0.61402
-- Martin Brown , 25 Feb 2011 15:00 +0000


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