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On 4/15/2011 2:33 PM, Tom P wrote:
On 04/15/2011 11:13 PM, Peter Franks wrote: On 4/15/2011 1:42 PM, Tom P wrote: On 04/15/2011 02:42 PM, Peter Franks wrote: On 4/15/2011 2:20 AM, Tom P wrote: On 04/14/2011 02:54 AM, Peter Franks wrote: On 4/13/2011 5:43 PM, ShyDavid wrote: On Wed, 13 Apr 2011 15:29:28 -0700, Peter wrote: On 4/11/2011 4:39 PM, Roger Coppock wrote: The satellite record, in all its current interpretations, shows that the air near the surface is warming. For background on the satellite temperature proxy please see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Satelli...e_measurements The URL below is one of the more conservative records from the University of Alabama at Huntsville. http://vortex.nsstc.uah.edu/public/m.../tltglhmam_5.4 The global data are graphed he http://members.cox.net/rcoppock/UAH-MSU.jpg The Remote Sensing Systems Lower Troposphere (TLT) analysis also shows a temperature rise above the surface of the land and sea. http://www.remss.com/data/msu/monthl...cean_v03_3.txt The data from 82.5N to 70S are graphed he http://members.cox.net/rcoppock/RSS-MSU.jpg The data do NOT show a continued warming. THEY SHOW INCREASING COOLING, WITH THE MOST RECENT DATA POINTS BEING BELOW NORMAL!!! No. And since your graphs (below) show Earth is still warming, one has got to wonder what the bloody hell you could possibly be lying for. http://members.cox.net/peter.franks/UAH-MSU.jpg http://members.cox.net/peter.franks/RSS-MSU.jpg How does it show the earth is still warming? You can get a reasonably accurate fit of the temperature anomaly since 1979 by fitting a linear plus sinusoidal function to the data. You get a linear trend of 0.14/decade plus a sinusoidal with a cycle of 3.73 years and half amplitude of about 0.13°c. http://tinypic.com/r/10e4iac/7 Right now we are on the downward swing of the sinusoidal but it will return to a maximum in 2013-2014. That's your linear model. The data itself shows something different, and definitely NOT continued warming. It may warm again, in the future, or it may not, but in the meantime, "Latest Satellite MSU Data Show Continued Warming" is patently false. Notice how Roger can't even defend his own post. The calculation shows how all 30 years of measured data can be modelled with an accuracy of 70% correlation as a sum of a cyclic component plus a linear component. Now tell us again about why you ignore 90% of the data. I'm not. I'm challenging the assertion that "Latest Satellite MSU Data Show Continued Warming" -- it doesn't. So we agree that you just have a problem with the subject... ....and conclusion |
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