On 3/14/12 10:30 PM, Leonard wrote:
In response to claims that oceans levels are rising and
threatening to drown New York City, he shows they
are actually falling.

ScienceShot: Rising Tide Puts Coastal Cities at Risk
http://news.sciencemag.org/scienceno...oa.html?ref=em

Census data show that about 3.7 million people, or about 1.2% of the nation's population, live in that swath and that 89% of at-risk residents live along the shores in just five states: Florida, Louisiana, California, New York, and New Jersey. In 544 municipalities and in 38 counties, more than 10% of the population resides within 1 meter of the current high-tide line, the researchers report online today in Environmental Research Letters.

In sci.physics Sam Wormley wrote:
On 3/14/12 10:30 PM, Leonard wrote:
In response to claims that oceans levels are rising and
threatening to drown New York City, he shows they
are actually falling.

ScienceShot: Rising Tide Puts Coastal Cities at Risk
http://news.sciencemag.org/scienceno...oa.html?ref=em

Census data show that about 3.7 million people, or about 1.2% of the
nation's population, live in that swath and that 89% of at-risk residents
live along the shores in just five states: Florida, Louisiana, California,
New York, and New Jersey. In 544 municipalities and in 38 counties, more
than 10% of the population resides within 1 meter of the current high-tide
line, the researchers report online today in Environmental Research Letters.

So what?

If sea levels rise, people will move to higher ground, staying within
1 meter of the current high-tide line.

If sea levels fall, people will move to lower ground, staying within
1 meter of the current high-tide line.

On 3/14/2012 11:35 PM, Sam Wormley wrote:
On 3/14/12 10:30 PM, Leonard wrote:
In response to claims that oceans levels are rising and
threatening to drown New York City, he shows they
are actually falling.

ScienceShot: Rising Tide Puts Coastal Cities at Risk
http://news.sciencemag.org/scienceno...oa.html?ref=em


Census data show that about 3.7 million people, or about 1.2% of the
nation's population, live in that swath and that 89% of at-risk
residents live along the shores in just five states: Florida,
Louisiana, California, New York, and New Jersey. In 544 municipalities
and in 38 counties, more than 10% of the population resides within 1
meter of the current high-tide line, the researchers report online
today in Environmental Research Letters.

So tell us Worm, with a sea rise of two millimeters a year, how long
before that 3.7 million find the beach is in their kitchen? I think
they have plenty of time to move inland. Of course the proposed
trillions of dollars to Bangladesh to "compensate" them for the land
lost due to Satan America driving their SUVs and running their electric
appliances should work. (as if any of it will EVERY get to ANYONE living
in the lowlands)

I'm sorry Worm. Is CO2 a "greenhouse gas"? Could you post those links
proving it is to us "deniers" again?

And I love the ad in your "reference" that urges everyone to learn about
the "44 strategies for overcoming skepticism post-climategate"
I kid you NOT! THAT is a QUOTE! So AAAS suggests that the way to
"advance science" is to learn 44 "strategies" to whitewash the exposure
of science fraud in emails? SHAME on AAAS! I trust it is obvious to
everyone here that these are 44 political lessons in stonewalling and
cover-ups and prevarications. No "science" in sight as usual.

Nice reference exposing AAAS as biased, but you are still a liar and fraud.

On 3/14/12 11:53 PM, Leonard wrote:
As for Acidification it literally can not happen. Physically impossible.

Get real Leonard.

Ocean acidification on track to be among the worst of the last 300 million years
http://arstechnica.com/science/news/...lion-years.ars

On 3/14/12 11:53 PM, Leonard wrote:
As for Acidification it literally can not happen. Physically impossible.

Get real Leonard.

Ocean acidification on track to be among the worst of the last 300 million years
http://arstechnica.com/science/news/...lion-years.ars

On 3/15/12 12:11 AM, wrote:
So tell us Worm, with a sea rise of two millimeters a year, how long
before that 3.7 million find the beach is in their kitchen?

I don't know why you are so naive to think that sea level change
remains constant. You must not understand cause and effect, Ben

IPCC Fourth Assessment Report
http://www.ipcc.ch/ipccreports/ar4-wg1.htm

Global Warming (Overview from Wikipedia)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_warming

NOAA Climate Monitoring
http://lwf.ncdc.noaa.gov/climate-monitoring/index.php

U.S. Global Change Research Program
http://www.globalchange.gov/

On 3/15/12 12:11 AM, wrote:
I'm sorry Worm. Is CO2 a "greenhouse gas"? Could you post those links
proving it is to us "deniers" again?

No problem.

The Carbon Dioxide Greenhouse Effect
http://www.aip.org/history/climate/co2.htm

APS: A Tutorial on the Basic Physics of Climate Change
http://www.aps.org/units/fps/newslet...afemeister.cfm

Proof of the Atmospheric Greenhouse Effect
http://arxiv.org/PS_cache/arxiv/pdf/...802.4324v1.pdf

CO2 and its effect on climate
http://scienceofdoom.com/roadmap/co2/

In sci.physics Sam Wormley wrote:
On 3/15/12 12:11 AM, wrote:
So tell us Worm, with a sea rise of two millimeters a year, how long
before that 3.7 million find the beach is in their kitchen?

I don't know why you are so naive to think that sea level change
remains constant. You must not understand cause and effect, Ben

I don't know why you are so terrified by something measured in units
of mm/year.

Could it be you don't know how big a mm is?

Could it be you are an old man frightened by any change to anything like
Grampa Simpson?

Could it be that you are just a trolling twit?

In sci.physics Sam Wormley wrote:
On 3/15/12 12:11 AM, wrote:
So tell us Worm, with a sea rise of two millimeters a year, how long
before that 3.7 million find the beach is in their kitchen?

I don't know why you are so naive to think that sea level change
remains constant. You must not understand cause and effect, Ben
....

I remember crunching the numbers after the Japan tsunami last year.
The distance the wave travels inland is a function of wave height
and beachfront slope (and maybe the distro of objects along the beach).
But as usual a simple power law is a good approximation.

Given a 20 cm SLR last century the wave travelled 10m further inland
in some areas, but up to 100m further inland in the worst-hit areas.

But usually "damage" is reaconed in terms of how far above current
high tide mark large parts of the coast are. In parts of Florida,
e.g., quite large areas are less than 1m above even mid tide, so likely
face some inundation during leap tides or surge waves. Amusingly,
Washington, DC, is among the list of regions that can be threatened in
this way right now.

--
[Goalpost, goalpost, wherefor art tho?]
jimp wrote:
Where are the bodies from people dying of thirst?
I can't recommend search engines too highly.
Just the first site:
http://www.missionariesofafrica.org/...es/water1.html
...more than 2500 children are dying each day. "When people are desperately thirsty," one official explained, "they are willing to take the risk of disease
...
Lack of water in Africa is political, not anything else.
-- , 15 Mar 2012 01:54 -0000

On 3/15/2012 11:00 PM, R Kym Horsell wrote:
In sci.physics Sam Wormley wrote:
On 3/15/12 12:11 AM, wrote:
So tell us Worm, with a sea rise of two millimeters a year, how long
before that 3.7 million find the beach is in their kitchen?

I don't know why you are so naive to think that sea level change
remains constant. You must not understand cause and effect, Ben


The cause is NOT established, it may be due to under water volcanoes and
tectonic shifting or external gravitational change as we line up with
the galactic center or a dark Star that makes its 26,000 year journey
closest to our sun, making our star system an actual binary star system.

It could be causing the water level to be higher or even hiding an
actual water level rise that's more than we know.


Meaning that you don't know either the cause of what you see, or that it
is the effect of what you think it is or as much or less than you think
it should be.


In short, I wouldn't propose such a crazy claim as Global Warming with
so little real DATA to support the hypothesis.




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When it comes to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness, there is NO
moderation. To do so is to lose the battle before it has begun.