jg wrote in news:T3xyr.7611$v14.769
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On 2/06/2012 11:37 AM, .G. r. e e n c o n wrote:
It's all perception created by a vastly larger media. Every little
thing is of "dire" importance and (because 4/5ths of the adult
population suffers from innumeracy) people believe things are more
severe than long ago. They aren't. Now, everyone with a phone can
film a tornado and every house blown down in a hurricane has its image
blasted across the globe in seconds. What result did anyone expect?



I'm not sure anyone knows what to expect, but melting ice caps and
rising sea levels would seem to be a good indicator.

have a look at

http://joannenova.com.au/2012/05/man...es-are-due-to-
global-adjustments/

http://goo.gl/x19yO

http://joannenova.com.au/2011/12/aus...xaggerated-by-
8-fold-or-maybe-ten/

http://goo.gl/aemOr

I picked up on the last one, because it has been part of my work for years
to keep an eye on several local tide gauges, for establishing HAT values
etc.

The "adjusters" are too stupid to realise that the raw data is available
from more than one source.

"troppo" wrote in message
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jg wrote in news:T3xyr.7611$v14.769
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On 2/06/2012 11:37 AM, .G. r. e e n c o n wrote:
It's all perception created by a vastly larger media. Every little
thing is of "dire" importance and (because 4/5ths of the adult
population suffers from innumeracy) people believe things are more
severe than long ago. They aren't. Now, everyone with a phone can
film a tornado and every house blown down in a hurricane has its image
blasted across the globe in seconds. What result did anyone expect?



I'm not sure anyone knows what to expect, but melting ice caps and
rising sea levels would seem to be a good indicator.

have a look at

http://joannenova.com.au/2012/05/man...es-are-due-to-
global-adjustments/

http://goo.gl/x19yO

http://joannenova.com.au/2011/12/aus...xaggerated-by-
8-fold-or-maybe-ten/

http://goo.gl/aemOr

I picked up on the last one, because it has been part of my work for years
to keep an eye on several local tide gauges, for establishing HAT values
etc.

The "adjusters" are too stupid to realise that the raw data is available
from more than one source.

IF what you says is true you should have a grasp of reality, the water from
the retreating glaciers and ice shelves plus the thermal expansion of the
oceans is having an effect

"dechucka" wrote in
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"troppo" wrote in message
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jg wrote in news:T3xyr.7611$v14.769
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On 2/06/2012 11:37 AM, .G. r. e e n c o n wrote:
It's all perception created by a vastly larger media. Every little
thing is of "dire" importance and (because 4/5ths of the adult
population suffers from innumeracy) people believe things are more
severe than long ago. They aren't. Now, everyone with a phone can
film a tornado and every house blown down in a hurricane has its
image blasted across the globe in seconds. What result did anyone
expect?



I'm not sure anyone knows what to expect, but melting ice caps and
rising sea levels would seem to be a good indicator.

have a look at

http://joannenova.com.au/2012/05/man...es-are-due-to-
global-adjustments/

http://goo.gl/x19yO

http://joannenova.com.au/2011/12/aus...ses-exaggerate
d-by- 8-fold-or-maybe-ten/

http://goo.gl/aemOr

I picked up on the last one, because it has been part of my work for
years to keep an eye on several local tide gauges, for establishing
HAT values etc.

The "adjusters" are too stupid to realise that the raw data is
available from more than one source.

IF what you says is true you should have a grasp of reality ...

I do have a grasp of reality. I noticed that (a) much of what was being
claimed did not match my own records, then (b) much of what was being
claimed was based on modelling of adjusted values. Enough to explain why
the results didn't match reality

.... the water from the retreating glaciers and ice shelves plus the
thermal expansion of the oceans is having an effect

Sure, the levels rise - then fall. The fluctuations tend to follow a flat
sine wave pattern. In the area I am concerned with, this pattern follows
pressure and temperature changes associated with the Southern Oscillation
Index.

Nothing to see here - move along ...

"troppo" wrote in message
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"dechucka" wrote in
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"troppo" wrote in message
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jg wrote in news:T3xyr.7611$v14.769
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On 2/06/2012 11:37 AM, .G. r. e e n c o n wrote:
It's all perception created by a vastly larger media. Every little
thing is of "dire" importance and (because 4/5ths of the adult
population suffers from innumeracy) people believe things are more
severe than long ago. They aren't. Now, everyone with a phone can
film a tornado and every house blown down in a hurricane has its
image blasted across the globe in seconds. What result did anyone
expect?



I'm not sure anyone knows what to expect, but melting ice caps and
rising sea levels would seem to be a good indicator.

have a look at

http://joannenova.com.au/2012/05/man...es-are-due-to-
global-adjustments/

http://goo.gl/x19yO

http://joannenova.com.au/2011/12/aus...ses-exaggerate
d-by- 8-fold-or-maybe-ten/

http://goo.gl/aemOr

I picked up on the last one, because it has been part of my work for
years to keep an eye on several local tide gauges, for establishing
HAT values etc.

The "adjusters" are too stupid to realise that the raw data is
available from more than one source.

IF what you says is true you should have a grasp of reality ...

I do have a grasp of reality. I noticed that (a) much of what was being
claimed did not match my own records, then (b) much of what was being
claimed was based on modelling of adjusted values. Enough to explain why
the results didn't match reality

.... the water from the retreating glaciers and ice shelves plus the
thermal expansion of the oceans is having an effect

Sure, the levels rise - then fall. The fluctuations tend to follow a flat
sine wave pattern. In the area I am concerned with, this pattern follows
pressure and temperature changes associated with the Southern Oscillation
Index.

Nothing to see here - move along ...

I agree till you produce something