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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/4310702.stm

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There's a fuller version of this story in today's Daily Mail (with the
usual "this-is-the-end-of-the-world-as-we-know-it" Daily Mail spin on
it).

- Tom.
Blackmore, SW Essex.

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On 5 Oct 2005 00:43:48 -0700, "Tom Bennett" wrote:

There's a fuller version of this story in today's Daily Mail (with the
usual "this-is-the-end-of-the-world-as-we-know-it" Daily Mail spin on
it).

Online article he

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/liv...a_source=&ct=5

And they managed not to mention immigration.

So it's "patchy rain" and not "showery outbreaks" - well that makes it a lot
clearer then.

For once I am in agreement with Bill Giles - just tell it to them straight.

Martin

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On Wed, 05 Oct 2005 11:26:21 +0100, JPG wrote:

So it's "patchy rain" and not "showery outbreaks" - well that makes it a lot
clearer then


To me, 'patchy rain' and 'showery outbreaks' mean entirely different
things. What the hell do they think they're doing?

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On Wed, 05 Oct 2005 11:26:21 +0100, JPG wrote:

So it's "patchy rain" and not "showery outbreaks" - well that makes it a

lot
clearer then


To me, 'patchy rain' and 'showery outbreaks' mean entirely different
things. What the hell do they think they're doing?


its alright Alan -- they are only going to mention what is going on in the
major part of the country so we just won't get any mention at all.
As she said this morning -- if its raining in the nw of Scotland but
everywhere else is fine then the report will be mostly fine - with no
mention of the rest of us

It makes dumbing down look intelligent

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On Wed, 05 Oct 2005 12:29:26 +0100, Alan White
wrote:

On Wed, 05 Oct 2005 11:26:21 +0100, JPG wrote:

So it's "patchy rain" and not "showery outbreaks" - well that makes it a lot
clearer then


To me, 'patchy rain' and 'showery outbreaks' mean entirely different
things. What the hell do they think they're doing?


I agree
- patchy rain = weak warm front, uniformly overcast and rain usually light
- showery outbreaks = slow moving convective or Ac Cas, some heavy rain,
some bright or sunny intervals.
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On Wed, 05 Oct 2005 13:43:14 +0100, JPG wrote:

I agree
- patchy rain = weak warm front, uniformly overcast and rain usually light
- showery outbreaks = slow moving convective or Ac Cas, some heavy rain,
some bright or sunny intervals.


Exactly!!!

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Alan White wrote:
On Wed, 05 Oct 2005 13:43:14 +0100, JPG wrote:

I agree
- patchy rain = weak warm front, uniformly overcast and rain
usually light
- showery outbreaks = slow moving convective or Ac Cas, some heavy
rain, some bright or sunny intervals.


Exactly!!!

Yes there is a difference, but to the 'man in the street', rain is rain -
light or heavy. Most are not concerned about the state of sky or cloud type.
I dislike the term 'showery outbreaks' ....showers are just that ...showers.
The phrase..'Patchy rain in the north and showery outbreaks in the south'
may mean something to weather enthusiasts but would be ridiculous to many.
John
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North Yorkshire.
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I was trying to think what's gone wrong with the BBC forcasts as far as
many of us weather enthusiasts are concerned and why there is this
obsession with the words and terminology the presenters use, and I
think it is this...

Whereas before the technical content was better, animated radar
(proper), Atlantic Charts with isobar and fronts. But now because the
graphics are so appauling we find that we have to listen all the bull
because there just ain't the content in visuals to look at that there
used to be.

Never mind it won't be long before you'll have to dail up an Indian
call centre for the forecast, that's what the nerds running things
think most of our mentality requires!

Keith (Southend)

http://www.southendweather.net

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John Whitby wrote:
Alan White wrote:

On Wed, 05 Oct 2005 13:43:14 +0100, JPG wrote:

I agree
- patchy rain = weak warm front, uniformly overcast and rain
usually light
- showery outbreaks = slow moving convective or Ac Cas, some heavy
rain, some bright or sunny intervals.



Exactly!!!


Yes there is a difference, but to the 'man in the street', rain is rain -
light or heavy. Most are not concerned about the state of sky or cloud
type.
I dislike the term 'showery outbreaks' ....showers are just that
...showers.
The phrase..'Patchy rain in the north and showery outbreaks in the south'
may mean something to weather enthusiasts but would be ridiculous to many.
John


Isn't / wasn't that patchy frontal stuff (previously?) called
intermittent showery rain? Oh dear, it's got more than one syllable poor
old Joe Public will never understand. How the ukmo got by in the past I
just don't know /:

The BBC is wanting to do it as well - according to them it isn't dumbing
down the weather (any more?)....

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