Can you just clarify something from your sentence, are you saying the
'energy protector 650' is one item (UPS) and the 'Trust' anti-surge
socket is another? I'm having trouble locating one of the latter. So you
plug the anti-surge socket lead into the UPS, and subsequently all you
equipment.

Thanks
No the UPS is called a Trust Energy Protector 650 and it has an anti
surge modem socket built in.

Les.


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Wallsend, Tyne & Wear
54.95N 1.5W
Home of the Wallsend StormCam and the Backup USW FAQ -
www.uksevereweather.org.uk

He http://www.trust.com/products/produc...WER-PROTECTION

Most computer shops and online stores do Trust, if you know what I mean.

Les

Keith (Southend) wrote:
Les Crossan wrote:

Felly sgrifennodd Gianna :
How would you recommend turning off an adsl router?
A sudden power off (turning off the switch) is the only method on the
models I have seen.

It shouldn't do it any harm; I haven't seen one with a hard disc in before
(and that's the thing that usually causes a problem with sudedn power
outages), even though my modem/router is running Linux Hey that makes
four Linux PCs in oue house

I agree that a power outtage can leave bits of files on a hard drive
(and loss of unsaved data) but it is easy to tidy up.

If you're really unlucky. The power supply can actually send an interrupt
to the CPU to tell it that the power has been cut, and if the CPU can act
quick enough (in the microseconds it has), it should be able to put things
in a safe state. That's the theory anyway; I don't know how Or how often)
this is implemented.

Adrian

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Keith (Southend) wrote:
Les Crossan wrote:

An antisurge socket should be fine but put a small ups on your PC as
they clean up noisy mains, dropouts, power surges, etc really well.


-----mains-----anti surge plug-----UPS-----equipment

All I have hanging off mine is my main server and it's display monitor,
so I can shut it down gracefully before I run out of power but there's
nobody stopping you from adding more.

I've had it go off on me before in thunderstorms, it's generally not too
much grief on a workstation if it dies but i've got a couple of RAID
arrays that have to regenerate if it goes off disgracefully for any
reason. The last major ts we had here in August killed the psu and
motherboard and it took me the best part of a day to recover everything
after replacing these parts. A ups stops mains overvoltages and spikes
as well as undervolts and is good protection for a workstation
especially if it's on all the time. And vital for a server which does a
lot more and has a lot more open files.

I don't know if a modem filter would interfere with dsl. You would have
to try it and see.

Les
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Les Crossan,
Wallsend, Tyne & Wear
54.95N 1.5W
Home of the Wallsend StormCam and the Backup USW FAQ -
www.uksevereweather.org.uk

On 23 Nov 2005 23:45:11 -0000, Adrian D. Shaw wrote:

The power supply can actually send an interrupt to the CPU to tell
it that the power has been cut, and if the CPU can act quick enough
(in the microseconds it has), it should be able to put things in a
safe state. That's the theory anyway; I don't know how Or how often)
this is implemented.

I doubt there is enough time to close files and update the discs
index...

Better to have a UPS. A decent one will come with a serial lead to
connect to the PC which runs a bit of software that gracefully shuts
the PC down when the power fails. Small UPSs don't get you much time,
think a few minutes, but ample to close everything down and switch off
if you are there. The software should be configurable to shutdown on
power fail or when the UPS battery is about to run flat.

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Dave. pam is missing e-mail

In article ,
Les Crossan wrote:

-----mains-----anti surge plug-----UPS-----equipment

All I have hanging off mine is my main server and it's display monitor,
so I can shut it down gracefully before I run out of power but there's
nobody stopping you from adding more.

I can confirm that the Trust UPS referred to by Les is very good and
excellent value. I also run servers here and power the main Linux box
and the ADSL router via the UPS.

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(very near http://www.meto.gov.uk/weather/europ...bs/filton.html )