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![]() ================================================== ============================== === This forecast represents the *PERSONAL OPINION* of the Chief forecaster at the privately run Haytor meteorological office in Devon on how the weather may unfold next week. The Chief forecaster will take no responsibility whatsoever for any actions arising from its use. It is provided freely in the spirit of freedom and the great love for meteorology that we personally enjoy and wish to share freely with others. ================================================== ============================== === Summary valid for Sunday 04/12/05 to Saturday 10/12/05 TOI (time of issue) Thursday 01/12/05 2130 UK local time This summary is based on a quick appraisal of the GFS, JMA, ECMWF, UKMO, FAX, and ENS (NCEP ensemble) labelled charts available from the superb http://www.wetterzentrale.de/topkarten First of all an apology for a bad forecast last week. Probably the worst for quite some time. The weather has turned unsettled now with a deep low and strong winds near the UK, contrary to what was expected here last week. It was a judgement error, choosing to go along with older model runs, albeit at low confidence, despite contradictions from later data. Confidence is high this week, however, for a return to mainly dry weather from the north during the week, but turning colder with an easterly setting in in the south. On Sunday a complex area of low pressure will be centred over the British Isles bringing light to moderate variable winds and showers. Temperatures close to normal. Patchy fog overnight Sunday/Monday where winds fall light and skies clear. On Monday and Tuesday this area of low pressure will slowly fill and move away southeast into the continent as pressure builds from the northwest. Scotland and Northern Ireland will turn dry and cold with frost at night. England will be cloudy in the east with showers, possibly turning wintry later on hills. Scattered showers, wintry on hills in southern Britain but other areas mainly dry. Winds turning light but staying moderate east to northeast in the south. The rest of the week looks like being mainly dry and rather cold with patchy fog and frost at night. Risk of wintry showers in eastern England and perhaps in southern areas at times. Outlook for the following week with moderate confidence is for an easterly to become established with mainly dry and cold weather in the north but risk of rain, sleet and hill snow with strong winds spreading north into southern areas. Finally here is the sledging and winter walking forecast for Dartmoor for weekend 3/4th Dec: No snow is expected to lie or fall on Dartmoor during the weekend. Freezing levels will be well above the summits. Will. Chief forecaster HMO/USW " Ah yet another day to enjoy " ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- A COL BH site in East Dartmoor at Haytor, Devon 310m asl (1017 feet). mailto: www: http://www.lyneside.demon.co.uk/Hayt...antage_Pro.htm DISCLAIMER - All views and opinions expressed by myself are personal and do not necessarily represent those of my employer. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- |
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"Will Hand" wrote in message
... Confidence is high this week, however, for a return to mainly dry weather from the north during the week, but turning colder with an easterly setting in in the south. ..... ..... Outlook for the following week with moderate confidence is for an easterly to become established with mainly dry and cold weather in the north but risk of rain, sleet and hill snow with strong winds spreading north into southern areas. Well, Will, that's made a pleasant and surprising read. I didn't expect to see the high confidence of an Easterly, albeit in the South, for week 1, never mind the moderate confidence of an easterly in week 2. I have to admit I am/was leaning toward the scenario where the Low off Newfoundland comes through eventually and pushes the Western High to the S of Ireland, giving us a spell of the ould sw-rlies! I realise some models are all over the place - I'm probably influenced by the "wrong" ones...and I'm a crap forecaster! Thanks again for the update and fair dues to you for admitting to the less than accurate forecast last week. You do rank as one of the more credible forecasters and this goes to prove you are not infallible just like the rest of us mere mortals!! Joe. |
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Without wanting to sound sycophantic as sometimes can be the case (you know
"great forecast" "Good stuff" "Looks Brilliant" etc. before it has even happened! No names , no pack drill;-) ) I've just re-read that forecast and can't see too much wrong with it - not for here in S.Essex anyway. Probably because it was not only specific but specific about the probabilities so my expectations were accurate. Are you prepared to reveal your methodology? Don't go and tell me you used meteorological science. ;-) Dave "Will Hand" wrote in message ... ================================================== ========================== ==== === This forecast represents the *PERSONAL OPINION* of the Chief forecaster at the privately run Haytor meteorological office in Devon on how the weather may unfold next week. The Chief forecaster will take no responsibility whatsoever for any actions arising from its use. It is provided freely in the spirit of freedom and the great love for meteorology that we personally enjoy and wish to share freely with others. ================================================== ========================== ==== === Summary valid for Sunday 04/12/05 to Saturday 10/12/05 TOI (time of issue) Thursday 01/12/05 2130 UK local time This summary is based on a quick appraisal of the GFS, JMA, ECMWF, UKMO, FAX, and ENS (NCEP ensemble) labelled charts available from the superb http://www.wetterzentrale.de/topkarten First of all an apology for a bad forecast last week. Probably the worst for quite some time. The weather has turned unsettled now with a deep low and strong winds near the UK, contrary to what was expected here last week. It was a judgement error, choosing to go along with older model runs, albeit at low confidence, despite contradictions from later data. Confidence is high this week, however, for a return to mainly dry weather from the north during the week, but turning colder with an easterly setting in in the south. On Sunday a complex area of low pressure will be centred over the British Isles bringing light to moderate variable winds and showers. Temperatures close to normal. Patchy fog overnight Sunday/Monday where winds fall light and skies clear. On Monday and Tuesday this area of low pressure will slowly fill and move away southeast into the continent as pressure builds from the northwest. Scotland and Northern Ireland will turn dry and cold with frost at night. England will be cloudy in the east with showers, possibly turning wintry later on hills. Scattered showers, wintry on hills in southern Britain but other areas mainly dry. Winds turning light but staying moderate east to northeast in the south. The rest of the week looks like being mainly dry and rather cold with patchy fog and frost at night. Risk of wintry showers in eastern England and perhaps in southern areas at times. Outlook for the following week with moderate confidence is for an easterly to become established with mainly dry and cold weather in the north but risk of rain, sleet and hill snow with strong winds spreading north into southern areas. Finally here is the sledging and winter walking forecast for Dartmoor for weekend 3/4th Dec: No snow is expected to lie or fall on Dartmoor during the weekend. Freezing levels will be well above the summits. Will. Chief forecaster HMO/USW " Ah yet another day to enjoy " -------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----- A COL BH site in East Dartmoor at Haytor, Devon 310m asl (1017 feet). mailto: www: http://www.lyneside.demon.co.uk/Hayt...antage_Pro.htm DISCLAIMER - All views and opinions expressed by myself are personal and do not necessarily represent those of my employer. -------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----- |
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