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Hello All,

I know know it's to do with the equation of time, and it's shape is an
analemma.

But where can I find the sunrise and sunset times, so I can see when the
latest sunrise, and earliest sunset is, in the UK?

Joe
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Hello All,

I know know it's to do with the equation of time, and it's shape is an
analemma.

But where can I find the sunrise and sunset times, so I can see when the
latest sunrise, and earliest sunset is, in the UK?


And every year I try to get my head around exactly *why* we get this
effect and every year I give up

Col
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Joe Egginton wrote:

Hello All,

I know know it's to do with the equation of time, and it's shape is an
analemma.

But where can I find the sunrise and sunset times, so I can see when the
latest sunrise, and earliest sunset is, in the UK?



It depends where you are. Current sunset here is 15:55
(http://tinyurl.com/dh97v) which is as early as it gets. By the 21st the
sun will set at 15:57, but will rise 8 minutes later than current, giving a
slightly shorter day.



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On Sat, 10 Dec 2005 10:49:23 -0000, Col wrote:

earliest sunset is, in the UK?

And every year I try to get my head around exactly *why* we get this
effect and every year I give up



Try here, it may or may not help :-)
http://www.analemma.com/Pages/framesPage.html

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Hello All,

I know know it's to do with the equation of time, and it's shape is an
analemma.

But where can I find the sunrise and sunset times, so I can see when the
latest sunrise, and earliest sunset is, in the UK?


This Link is from Jon O'Rourke's Met Brief:

http://www.worldtime.com/cgi-bin/wt....523de0&land=65

Phil




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http://aa.usno.navy.mil/data/docs/RS_OneYear.html

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Joe Egginton wrote:
Hello All,

I know know it's to do with the equation of time, and it's shape is an
analemma.

But where can I find the sunrise and sunset times, so I can see when the
latest sunrise, and earliest sunset is, in the UK?


You can have a play with http://www.canterburyweather.co.uk/sun/test.php
which shows various sunrise/sunset times on a map of the UK. If you ask
nicely I might be able to add a new location if you want.

I've also got a couple of derived pages on my website:

http://www.jstott.me.uk/gmapsgeotool...imesfinder.php allows you to
find sunrise/sunset time for anywhere in the world (it gets inaccurate
near the poles though where the sunrises before midnight or sets after
midnight, but that shouldn't affect the UK).

I also have a web service available if you want to write a computer
program to do stuff for you. http://geo.jstott.me.uk/index.htm

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You can have a play with http://www.canterburyweather.co.uk/sun/test.php
which shows various sunrise/sunset times on a map of the UK. If you ask
nicely I might be able to add a new location if you want.


I couldn't access any other date than today

Plus the times for 10th Dec for Anglesey surely can't be right......

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Col wrote:

You can have a play with http://www.canterburyweather.co.uk/sun/test.php


I couldn't access any other date than today


No? What happens when you change the date selector at the top of the
page and click "Go"?

Plus the times for 10th Dec for Anglesey surely can't be right......


Fixed that - errant minus sign on the longitude :-/

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Col wrote:
"Joe Egginton" wrote in message
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Hello All,

I know know it's to do with the equation of time, and it's shape is an
analemma.

But where can I find the sunrise and sunset times, so I can see when the
latest sunrise, and earliest sunset is, in the UK?



And every year I try to get my head around exactly *why* we get this
effect and every year I give up

Col
--
Bolton, Lancashire.
160m asl.



It's the difference between natural time (per sundial) and clock time.
That's the best definition I can come up with at short notice.

Joe
Wolverhampton


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