Chris wrote:
Dave.C wrote:

I'm afraid the goalposts for defining cold have probably moved
forever. Only
a small part of the population can clearly remember truly harsh
weather. It


Not sure about that. I cycled 40km last thursday in a temperature of
-4c. I was covered in frost. That was harsh.

Now, perhaps only a small part of the population expose themselves to
the outdoors - I'd happily accept that! Most people just fall out of
their centrally heated, super insulated houses, into their fully heated
cars and never experience the outdoors.

--
Chris
http://www.ivy-house.net
Swaffham, Norfolk

Too true Chris, on the Tuesday after Christmas I went up the 1600 feet
Callow hill part of the Long Mynd in West Shrops. The ground was frozen
hard with sub zero temps, let alone the near gale blowing at the peak.

I saw quite a few motorists taking photos from their cars. Why don't
they get off their fat back sides and do some exercise ?

You can see a great deal of beautiful countryside while walking off
road, or even off the beaten track.

Joe
Wolverhampton
175mm asl

Joe.
Are you really only 175mm above mean sea level?????
"Joe Egginton" wrote in message
...
Chris wrote:
Dave.C wrote:

I'm afraid the goalposts for defining cold have probably moved forever.
Only
a small part of the population can clearly remember truly harsh weather.
It


Not sure about that. I cycled 40km last thursday in a temperature of -4c.
I was covered in frost. That was harsh.

Now, perhaps only a small part of the population expose themselves to the
outdoors - I'd happily accept that! Most people just fall out of their
centrally heated, super insulated houses, into their fully heated cars
and never experience the outdoors.

--
Chris
http://www.ivy-house.net
Swaffham, Norfolk

Too true Chris, on the Tuesday after Christmas I went up the 1600 feet
Callow hill part of the Long Mynd in West Shrops. The ground was frozen
hard with sub zero temps, let alone the near gale blowing at the peak.

I saw quite a few motorists taking photos from their cars. Why don't they
get off their fat back sides and do some exercise ?

You can see a great deal of beautiful countryside while walking off road,
or even off the beaten track.

Joe
Wolverhampton
175mm asl

In message , Steve Loft
writes
BlueLightning wrote:

We need to be hoping for Zonality right now,

No worries looks like a mobile west to south westerly for next week with
plenty of the wet stuff in store. This so called strong HP bringing the
east winds looks like another short affair before its on its way!
--
Graham

On Wed, 04 Jan 2006 18:43:29 GMT, "GKN" wrote:

Joe.
Are you really only 175mm above mean sea level?????

I suspect he is. In boating terms,on the canals, I climb up 21 locks
to Wolverhampton from the west. The highest point in the Birmingham
area that I can get to by boat is the Titford Pools (just under the
M5) which IIRC is something like 515feet.
The canals up there are very much on a plateau - 58 locks up from the
Severn from the south, 46 odd from the SW, 40 odd from the(NE)
Tamworth area, and 40 odd from the (SE) Warwick area.
Cheers Robin

On Wed, 04 Jan 2006 21:58:39 +0000, Robin Nicholson wrote in


On Wed, 04 Jan 2006 18:43:29 GMT, "GKN" wrote:

Joe.
Are you really only 175mm above mean sea level?????

I suspect he is.
snip

I have a sneaking feeling it is the use of "mm" being queried:-)

--
Mike 55.13°N 6.69°W Coleraine posted to uk.sci.weather 04/01/2006 22:03:33 UTC

Ian Currie wrote:
I have heard several references of late on forecasts I quote " now a very
cold Continent". Well this is not really so.
Current temperatures mid afternoon Warsaw 1C, Berlin 1C, to the southeast
Budapest at 1C, Vienna 1C and to the north east Helsinki minus 2C. Moscow is
chilly with minus 17C and even lower in parts of the city but as yet this
air is some distance from us.
Now similar references were made in January 1987 and things were a little
different- Helsinki minus 30C, Copenhagen minus 13C, Berlin minus11C,
Prague minus 17C, Moscow minus 27C, Budapest minus 17C, Munich -16C etc at
lunchtime on the 12th. Now that was cold.

Ian Currie -Coulsdon
www.Frostedearth.com

Yes, Ian, I heard Philip Avery say those very words on R4. He
must know that they are not true, so why did he say it? The awful
thought occurs that he does *not* know it. No, can't be. The answer
must be that he knows that most people know the continent is colder
than Britain in winter and as the wind will be coming from that
direction he'd better say the continent is cold even if, for the
continent, it isn't at all so. We are being talked down to in factual
matters now let alone in questions of style, eg the gushing babytalk
that many forecasters use. They're rubbish and I get a feeling they
know they're rubbish but only because they're told to be.

Tudor Hughes, Warlingham, Surrey.

Graham wrote:
In message , Steve Loft
writes

BlueLightning wrote:

We need to be hoping for Zonality right now,


No worries looks like a mobile west to south westerly for next week with
plenty of the wet stuff in store. This so called strong HP bringing the
east winds looks like another short affair before its on its way!

They can change again

--
Keith (Southend)
http://www.southendweather.net

On Wed, 4 Jan 2006 22:03:33 +0000, Mike Tullett
wrote:

I have a sneaking feeling it is the use of "mm" being queried:-)

Ah...yessssssssss..now where are my glasses!
R

"Martin Rowley" wrote in
message ...

... yes indeed: just waiting for the first use of the phrase " .... an
icy blast all the way from Siberia"!


.... Thursday, 0910Z: Johnnie Walker on Radio 2 ... " freezing winds all
the way from Siberia": presumably quoting from a newspaper.

Martin.

Robin Nicholson wrote:
On Wed, 4 Jan 2006 22:03:33 +0000, Mike Tullett
wrote:

I have a sneaking feeling it is the use of "mm" being queried:-)

Ah...yessssssssss..now where are my glasses!
R

Where you left them I suspect! On the top of your head...??
--
Rob Overfield
Hull