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Summer Arctic sea ice falls far below average for fourth year, winter
ice sees sharp decline, spring melt starts earlier

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Summer Arctic sea ice falls far below average for fourth year, winter
ice sees sharp decline, spring melt starts earlier

http://tinyurl.com/buypx



Nice of them to draw the blue line at
http://nsidc.org/news/press/20050928_trends_fig1.html but take it away
and the trend is sideways apart from 1 anomaly - 2005.



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Brian Wakem wrote:

BlueLightning wrote:
Summer Arctic sea ice falls far below average for fourth year, winter
ice sees sharp decline, spring melt starts earlier

http://tinyurl.com/buypx



Nice of them to draw the blue line at
http://nsidc.org/news/press/20050928_trends_fig1.html but take it away
and the trend is sideways apart from 1 anomaly - 2005.


"Trend is sideways"? Sorry, I can't figure out what you mean.

It's a pity they haven't been able to use a longer period of data. If they'd
gone back a bit further I suspect it would be seen that the blue line
should be a curve, not a straight line, with a maximum in the late sixties.

I see the Kara Sea still hasn't frozen over. Conditions in that area look
about a couple of months behind normal. Rest of N Atlantic ice conditions
are near minimum for 1966-2000.


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BlueLightning wrote:
Summer Arctic sea ice falls far below average for fourth year, winter
ice sees sharp decline, spring melt starts earlier

http://tinyurl.com/buypx



Nice of them to draw the blue line at
http://nsidc.org/news/press/20050928_trends_fig1.html but take it away and
the trend is sideways apart from 1 anomaly - 2005.



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I think it is interesting to note how much variation there is in sea ice
amounts even over a period of just weeks.
http://arctic.atmos.uiuc.edu/cryosph...urrent.365.jpg demonstrates
this quite well.
Then take a look at
http://nsidc.org/data/seaice_index/a...ge_select.html and select
Hemisphe Southern / Year 2005 / Month : March / Image: Extent Anomalies
and you should see a 5.7% decadal increase in sea ice around Antarctica.
Same season, same planet, same CO2 levels, different trend. It's not as
simple as it looks.

Martin
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BlueLightning wrote:
Summer Arctic sea ice falls far below average for fourth year, winter
ice sees sharp decline, spring melt starts earlier

http://tinyurl.com/buypx

I can't remember having ever seen a record or anything about the 10 or
20 (?) cyclones that occur annually in the Arctic. I take it that these
storms are due to temperature rises in the seas there?

That's if my theory about the recent findings from Southampton holds
water; that an interruption in the ocean gyres allows the heat
build-ups assosciated with hurricanes etc.

Not really an interesting topic for conversation as compared to -for
example; door stepping the leader of the Liberal party in the middle of
the night seems to be. I suppose this is another example of dumbing
down?

I mean, who wouldn't rather listen to a closet homo such as the
Archbishop of Cant when the alternative is Moses? (Bit of a hangover
from the Sickness Reveals there. Sorry.)



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